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Yep, it's that time of year where announcements for the cancellation/renewal of shows, and some are more disappointing than others. Unfortunately, Agent Carter and Galavant have been cancelled. The latter I'm not surprised, considering I think even they were surprised that it gained a lot of popularity after the first season (which I thought was going to be more of a limited series rather than something ongoing), and even had a meta song in the finale. So even though I'll miss how fun and hilariously entertaining it was, the show was wrapped up quite nicely. Agent Carter, on the other hand, deserved a third season because I was hoping they would get into more about Peggy developing SHIELD and everything in relation to that. In addition to that, Marvel's Most Wanted, the Agents of Shield spin-off focusing on Bobbi Morse and Lance Hunter, has also not been picked up to go to series. It's ridiculous considering that they keep flip-flopping on it, since it was first announced earlier last year before being vetoed by the network, but then they took back their initial statement and it was a go, so much that this season of Agents of Shield they gave the characters an emotional sendoff, only for their spin-off to be cancelled before it even began. I guess they'll have to bring them back somehow.

Supergirl has officially been renewed for a second season, however it'll be moving from CBS to the CW. I'm on the fence of this decision, considering that this news means that there will be budget cuts and possibly actors/characters being cut as well, and I'm wary about how CW handles their shows. However, someone wrote a very good analysis on this particular decision and the overall aspect of television networks in general, which I found rather interesting.

Castle has been cancelled, which would be sad but due to the behind-the-scenes mess it's actually more of a relief. It's kind of awkwardly sad to admit, but you know, they dug their own graves by doing what they did. Though unfortunately, Sleepy Hollow didn't learn their lesson since it has been renewed for a fourth season. Just, the sheer audacity of them thinking that the show is worth anything without Abbie Mills, who was the main character and co-lead.

And apparently, CBS passed on the updated Nancy Drew series (with Sarah Shahi) because, guess what? It had too many women in it. Sexism at its finest, ladies and gentlemen.

Date: 2016-05-17 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giallarhorn.livejournal.com
I'm kind of sad to see Peggy go, but I can't say that it's that surprising? S2 didn't seem to be nearly as strong as S1, and a third season would've been nice to make a complete arc but even a second season was high hopes.

Castle and Galavant getting cut were kind of expected as well, though Castle probably should've ended last season as it were. I'm curious about the Supergirl network shift, since it does mean that all the DC shows are now on a centralized network, which I'm guessing they're going to use for crossovers?

What baffles me the most is that of all the shows that did get canceled, how Sleepy Hollow managed to still survive (again?) to get a fourth season. What does that show have to do to finally die?

But seriously, Nancy Drew didn't appeal to men enough? Uh, what did you expect?

Date: 2016-05-19 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's disappointing but even with a strong fanbase it had I'm not entirely sure the ratings were good enough for it to get renewed, unfortunately. It sucks because I wanted more of Peggy starting things with SHIELD and everything, including returning to New York and seeing Angie again (because I loved that friendship so much), but alas. I'm hoping that at least we can have small snippet flashbacks in Agents of Shield or something to tie in everything with the SHIELD creation and origins, since they have mentioned her several times on the show before.

I'm curious about the Supergirl network shift, since it does mean that all the DC shows are now on a centralized network, which I'm guessing they're going to use for crossovers?

Apparently upfronts just happened and they announced there is going to be a massive crossover with all their DC superhero shows. It leads me to wondering how that'll work. I'm definitely here for more Barry and Kara interactions since they were adorable, especially if she gets to meet Iris, and I've been thinking about Kara meeting Sara Lance, but I'm not certain I want Kara anywhere near the world of Arrow, simply because I don't want her dealing with Oliver Queen's nonsense. But we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

What baffles me the most is that of all the shows that did get canceled, how Sleepy Hollow managed to still survive (again?) to get a fourth season. What does that show have to do to finally die?

Seriously. I'm just so angry and confused. It shouldn't have been renewed after they killed off the most vital character of the entire show, even if Nicole wanted to leave for a while, the people behind the show are at fault for treating her the way they did for her to basically want out of the situation. I'm gonna laugh so hard when the show ends up getting pulled when they have so low ratings. It's just really ridiculous in general, because FOX is very unforgiving with shows that don't do that well, ratings-wise, even if a show is exceptional and gets a lot of fan and critic praise. So the fact that it got renewed despite the public fan outcry and not so great ratings has me rather suspicious.

But seriously, Nancy Drew didn't appeal to men enough? Uh, what did you expect?

And looking at their lineup for the fall, it's all testosterone and none of it looks good at all. Most I think will end up getting cancelled because they look super dumb. Nancy Drew could've saved y'all, but nope, you allowed your sexist opinions bypass something that could've been fantastic (and it sucks because Supergirl basically proved that something can be woman-centric with feminist messages and succeed in the best way? and yet, even though it found a new home on the CW, they basically let it go as well? SMH CBS.)

Date: 2016-05-22 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giallarhorn.livejournal.com
That's what I was thinking- it'd more or less get continued on AoS, since it has been by and large working to set up larger plots for MCU so far. Also, with the death of the show comes the death of Dottie and basically our only insights into the Black Widow/Red Room program, since we're maybe never getting a proper movie for that.

Isn't Barry the one who does the whole universe crossing stuff, while Arrow stays mostly internalized? Or do they have universe hopping stuff as well with Constantine introduced and Legends of Tomorrow? If the former, I'm puzzled how they'd drag in Arrow into the mix.

Date: 2016-05-29 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Also, with the death of the show comes the death of Dottie and basically our only insights into the Black Widow/Red Room program, since we're maybe never getting a proper movie for that.

So true. :( Part of me really wants there to be a Netflix series focusing on just that, mostly an origin story of Natasha and her origins. I feel like that would be much better than a solo movie which will have limited amount of character exploration. But alas, 'tis just a dream at the moment.

Isn't Barry the one who does the whole universe crossing stuff, while Arrow stays mostly internalized? Or do they have universe hopping stuff as well with Constantine introduced and Legends of Tomorrow? If the former, I'm puzzled how they'd drag in Arrow into the mix.

From my understanding, Arrow was pretty much the introduction to The Flash, with both were an introduction to Legends of Tomorrow (having characters from both shows appearing and being a team), so they all exist in the same universe (known as the Arrowverse). The Flash introduces us to the concept parallel universes (including alternative versions of existing characters) and messing with timelines, whereas Supergirl exists in a different alternate universe, which Barry found himself in. That was something uniquely done for their crossover, and will probably find a way of doing it again underneath this planned massive one coming up.

So, in short, due to the convoluted nature of the DC multiverse, Arrow, while it does only deal with itself most of the time, can crossover with other shows when necessarily needed. Does that make sense?

Date: 2016-05-30 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giallarhorn.livejournal.com
I mean, there are weird rumors floating about how Netflix might pick up Agent Carter? Which wouldn't be an unprecedented move, since they've already got rights to the entire sub section of the Defenders.

Ahh, that makes a lot more sense now. I guess I'm curious of how Supergirl is going to tie itself in if it's existing in a parallel universe, whereas the other three shows are coexisting in one shared universe.

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