Some 6.20 spoilers.

[rogueslayer452]

I want to thank squishyball for directing me to these spoilers the other day, although I can't say they did good for my fangirl heart. So if you're like me, you'll compose yourself before reading those first and then join me for some capslocking and general talk about them.

The heartbreak really begins with “The Man Who Would Be King,” the first episode being directed by fan-fave writer Ben Edlund. “It’s the story of Castiel looking over his life, and then it turns into Castiel looking into his relationships,” he says. “If it does it’s job, it’ll break your heart.”

WHUT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO TO ME SHOW? SRSLY.
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I mean seriously, how much more does Castiel have to suffer on this show? I mean granted Supernatural always carries the angst ad nauseum and I do like angst when it's appropriate, but this season he's been carrying an entire burden and weight on his shoulders and not even Dean or Sam bother on even trying to help him with, or find the courtesy of asking earlier on about his war or empathize with what he has been doing when he isn't constantly with them 24/7 (LOOKING AT YOU DEAN, BEING AN INSENSITIVE JERKOFF TO YOUR BOYFRIEND >:|) I honestly believe that Castiel has been wearing thin for a long while now, just barely hanging on and whatever is happening he has to make tough decisions based on these relationships of his. Either his relationship with the Winchesters or with Balthazar and the rest of his brothers, what is right and what he must do, and obviously this episode will be an overview of how his entire existence has been shifted and changed due to these relationships, but it makes me wonder what this heartbreak will be and what causes it, either what decision/choices he makes or something is done to him, idk. It makes me fear the worst, tbh. It's gonna break me and with the other previous spoilers regarding Castiel for the duration of the season...especially with the finale, I just, I don't know what to think right now.

CAN'T THEY ALL JUST FUCKING HUG IT OUT AND BE FRIENDS AGAIN? AND DEAN WILL APOLOGIZE TO HIS ANGEL BF AND THEY CAN GET BACK TO THEIR ~PROFOUND BONDING~ AND ALL THAT JAZZ? CAN'T WE HAVE HAPPY-SLIGHTLY-CONFUSED-ABOUT-HUMANITY CAS BACK PLZ? WHY MUST HE BE SUFFERING RIGHT NOW, LOOKING TIRED AND EXHAUSTED AND SO WORN OUT READY TO DO WHATEVER IN DEFEAT? I JUST, I CANT. MY POOR BB. ;___;

FOR SOME REASON, I PERSONALLY THINK SOMEONE IN CASTIEL'S LITTLE ANGELICAL RECRUITED GROUP WILL BETRAY HIM, ESP BASED ON THE OTHER SPOILERS THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW WHO TO TRUST, AKA THE "RELUCTANT ALLY" BIT. D: D: D: D:

EDLUND, YOU GENIUS MASTERMIND. YOU BRING THE BRILLIANCE TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. ILU BUT DAMN, YOU WILL BRING THE CREYS IN THIS ONE. ;____;

Comments

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I DON'T WANT CASTIEL TO BE FOREVER ALONE! D: HE CARES ABOUT THEM SO MUCH THAT HIM REALIZING THAT IT'S UNREQUITED (even though that hardly makes sense that Dean and Sam haven't even thought about what he's been going through, after all this time) HE MIGHT DO SOMETHING DRASTIC WITHOUT THINKING. IDK IF THAT'LL HAPPEN AND MY ANXIETY IS UP AS IT IS ABOUT HIS CHARACTER STORY FROM HERE ON OUT, I'M GONNA HAVE A HEART ATTACK JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT THIS COULD POSSIBLY MEAN. D: D: D:

AND YES. THE BOYS WILL BE HUGE HYPOCRITES (NOT THAT THEY AREN'T ALREADY IN CERTAIN CASES) IF THEY DON'T AT LEAST TRY TO UNDERSTAND AND EMPATHIZE THE MAGNITUDE OF THE SITUATION CASTIEL HAS BEEN DEALING WITH. JUST, UGH.

I'm actually wondering about that, because before when describing the character of Rachel they said she was devoted to Castiel's mission. Instead here we see that a new angel will be a "reluctant ally", thereby leaving me confused with what they are implying. Balthazar isn't a new angel, or newly introduced angel, and surely they would have mentioned him by name in that interview if that were the case. Even though Balthazar has had his own agenda, he clearly does care about Castiel that he wouldn't outright betray him like that. Rachel seems the be the most likely candidate because a.) she's being introduced so late into the game and b.) she's female, or a female vessel, therefore doomed to become evil or dead, possibly both.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

He wouldn't be an honorary part of the Winchester family if there weren't some kind of self-sacrificing involved. If he's not gonna to die like he's previously done in the last two season finales, something else might happen. D:

The rift is unnecessary, imo. I like having character angst when needed, but they haven't bothered explaining why Dean has been acting the way he has been towards Castiel and it makes me sad and angry that they aren't bothering with maintaining that continuity between the two. It's not like they haven't confided or dealt with their separate problems that are inadvertently connected to each other before (re: the fourth season, for example) and I miss showing their friendship and bonding moments. I do hope in the remaining episodes we see amends happening, but I feel like even that is asking too much from the show anymore. *sighs*

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

That's the thing that kills me the most. Castiel has very few friends to begin with, so the possibility of him sacrificing himself in whatever method in the finale is heartbreaking because of this fact. ;_;

That's an interesting question. It's actually something that makes me wonder of how much of a writer's influence can affect the overall feel of a show, the continuity and relationships between characters, since when certain writers leave shows there can definitely be a noticeable shift in how things are being handled, at least sometimes in certain shows. It just is really concerning to me how much we rely on knowing who writes episodes and whether they are worth watching or not, particularly with this season. Hmmmm.

I don't understand it and I feel like the show will never explain why, or give proper resolution to it.

And yes, ITA about Gamble just not giving a fuck. Since you know, she is all about SammySammySammy all the time. :/

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I know. It's really aching my heart thinking that nobody cares for him, and have you seen him during this season, esp the last few episodes? He looks almost on the verge of tears, poor thing. :(

Oh, and I definitely hear you about the amount of what we see between Dean and Castiel and their chemistry is definitely based on Misha and Jensen. Because they add so much more to their characters than what's just written on the script. It wouldn't be eyefucking, it would just be sheer hatred if it was anyone else in those roles. :/

Actually, you know what else is interesting? I don't think I started paying attention to who wrote what episode (or who was going to write what episode) until the second half of S5... which is basically when it started going downhill. :\

Same here! Usually with my fandoms I don't pay that close attention to who is writing an episode because mostly there's a fluidity in consistency that there's no need to be concerned. Whereas with Supernatural it's so painfully obvious of the writers not even staying in sync with each other or the story because episodes can switch from being good one week to absolutely horrible the next. And yes, this is very noticeable since the latter half of last season when things started declining in quality of the writing and direction. And I think many people are noticing this too, which should say something about how downhill everything has gotten because of the shifts and changes not just with the showrunner but adding new writers who don't know the show into the mix.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

WHAAAAA, CAS!!! ;___; I SWEAR IF HE DOESN'T GET A GODDAMN HUG SOON I'M GONNA FIND A WAY ON GETTING THROUGH THE SCREEN AND HUG HIM MYSELF. :(

[cottoncandy86.livejournal.com]

Totally! I've ranted about this so many times in my LJ. lol

I don't watch much TV but when I do I never notice writers. But when I started watching SPN, I was like..is this normal? lol This season especially has been painfully obvious about the differences in writing. Sometimes it's like watching a totally different show each week lol

I really hope if there's a season 7 they weed out the bad writers. Because it's obvious some of them just aren't good with knowing the characters. The characterization this season has been cringe worthy at times. And I pray to God Ben stays on or there's no hope. Imo, he's the best writer there. And it's not because of his slashy moments. He's just talented and knows how to write the characters very well and consistently.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Exactly, and I never really noticed it before until this last season and a half. It's really, really bad when you look at how disoriented and horribly written some episodes are. I kinda feel bad for the actors actually, even though they do the best they can with what they're given. They are way better for the shit they've gotten this season, let me tell you.

Ben Edlund is the only writer that I trust on this show anymore. He just gets it, he understands how to manage and meld story and characters and bringing so much to the script and direction of what is happening. He's my hero, and the show's only hope. I pray that he becomes showrunner next season, even as unlikely as that may be. Because I see no other person capable of handling this show and giving it a satisfactory ending it deserves.