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Supernatural 6.08 "All Dogs Go To Heaven"

Reluctantly working for Crowley as he proposes a job for them to find an Alpha on their next case, the Winchesters discover a brash link of dead bodies with missing hearts, believed to be werewolf attacks. However the more they investigate it turns out that it isn't werewolves at all, but Skinwalkers, with their forms shaped into a dog. The one in particular, named Lucky, is captured by the boys and getting information about his "pack leader" which, incidentally, is the Alpha Skinwalker. Lucky tells the plans the Alpha has for all in the pack that they will turn their "families" at the same time, creating more Skinwalkers. They get Lucky to help them so they can take out the Alpha Skinwalker, though it turns into an all out gun and dogfight (literally) which results to Lucky getting injured, but the Alpha is dead.

Lucky returns back to the streets, hopefully to find himself another home, and Dean and Sam finally talk about Sam's deal which Sam admits that he isn't really Sam anymore. He doesn't give a shit about anything, and he feels better without that, but would like to be the old Sam again. The episode was overall kind of okay, nothing really new but the story was sort of sad.


Sam Winchester And His Soulless Confessional

Apparently Sam admitted that he really isn't Sam anymore, at least the Sam Winchester we once knew him to be. Which honestly we kind of already got that once the entire "no soul" thing was revealed, because honestly without a soul how can you be who you once were?

What's interesting about his confession though is that he probably wouldn't have said this had Dean not confronted him about it, like before. Dean knew that Sam was pretending to be still Sam and he had enough of dancing around the real issue, and Sam being caught red-handed yet again decided that he should just confirm that by confessing to it. I find it interesting what he says though, that he feels like Sam because of his memories and knowledge, but it really isn't him. This has me confused on what a soul particular means in this universe and what it translates to when someone is without their soul. This show really hasn't given any concrete groundwork for that aspect of the mythos at all, which is really bugging me. At least the show has acknowledged the confusion over it, but you'd think after six seasons there would be something to go on.

Another thing I'd like to address is Sam admitting that he just didn't give a shit about anything or anyone, and openly admitted that he'd done horrible and terrible things like killing innocents during hunts, and he just doesn't care. Being an efficient skilled hunter at the price of empathy and his own humanity of his soul, which he also admits that he probably thought about not wanting his soul back because he wants to stay like that. The fact it hurts with all the moralizing he used to do. I'll be honest, even though I do want Sammy back I kinda like this version of Sam; less with the bitching, emoing, throwing temper tantrums and having a chip on his shoulder and more of him just being an efficient hunter and getting shit done. I guess it goes back to the "reversal" aspect this season apparently is going for, he's acting more like Dean from the earlier seasons (except without the soulless part), and I think Jared is doing great since he plays this part rather well.

However, I still don't trust him.

Sam has openly lied to Dean many times since this season began, and has only admitted to the truth after getting caught or being confronted by his brother. It's like what Crowley said, this Sam would definitely sell his brother out for a dollar just for a soda if he wanted to, and there are times during this season where I honestly think Sam wanted to. Also, it got me to thinking that it's because of Sam's influence that has fucked Dean up during this last year because of his "not giving a flying fuck" about anything. How are we supposed to trust him now because of all this? Just because he's told the truth doesn't mean he won't lie again or do something else, since obviously he has other motives. He could say one thing but do another.

Someone mentioned that even without a soul, this version of Sam has been building over the seasons for some time, and I agree. Sam has been losing his sense of morality for a long time, and him without a soul completes it. What will happen once he gets his soul back? That is the biggest question.


Dean Winchester: Stop Moping And Grow A Pair

One of the biggest annoyances I had with this episode was they paralleling Lucky's issues to Dean's, because honestly I am sick and tired of them going back to that domesticated life nonsense. It didn't sense before and it still doesn't make sense now.

From a continuity standpoint I understand why it had to be included, however I thought we had been over this already? Dean needs to start manning himself up and stop dwelling over something he can't do anything about. Lisa doesn't want him around anymore, he knows that he endangers them every single time he's around them because like everything Winchester-related danger follows them around like tails on a dog, it is just inevitable, and he admitted to it deep down during the truth spell incident. So why is he continuing this emo bullshit still? It's an attachment of sorts, I get that, even though there's hardly any ties between them other than living with them for a year, I guess I just don't understand why the show needs to bring Lisa and Ben up constantly. Twice already this episode had Dean looking at his phone and Sam mentioning their names at the end when he simply could have just said he didn't care about anything or anyone, including his own brother.

I love Dean Winchester, I really really do. He's my second favorite character next to Castiel. However I don't like his character direction this season or why there even needed to be a domesticated storyline for him anyway, let alone a year time-jump; for the surprise of his brother being back I can get, but I feel like they needed to have Dean not be his hunter self and all this domesticated bullshit and I just, no. Sorry, that doesn't compute.

Unless the show is deliberately trying to say that Dean is more fucked up than ever before because of the less-than-smart choices he's made, I just don't really see the point. It's a wasted storyline when there could be other interesting factors added to it.

Dean? I love you and always will, but fucking get over it. Or more specifically, Sera Gamble? Fuck you for not even caring about his characterization one bit when creating this scenario. >:|

Yes, I am rather opinionated on the subject, and I know that some people have enjoyed seeing domesticated!Dean and I would too if the entire situation wasn't so randomly placed and without much development on either side, and that it actually made sense which this does not. I want Dean to be happy, but it has to be a life that he wants to live for himself without the entire thing being a falsehood, which is what the last year has been for him. A life based on a promise he made which isn't what he really truly wanted. Which seems to be a common theme for certain characters, and I'll get to that later. But yeah. I just hate the entire thing and I wish that they would have Dean just move on and stop with the melodramatics because that shit just is boring me to tears, and it's also an insult to his character, imo.


Memorable Moments of the Episode

++ CROWLEY BEING A SEXY BITCH, AS USUAL. ♥



The entire conversation in the food market of the restaurant was spectacularly done. I think it's because I love seeing Crowley, Dean and Sam sitting together at a fast food joint talking business. And Crowley sitting backwards on a chair? Awesome. Everything about that scene was very awesome. It still places questions about the limitations of Crowley's abilities now with his King of Hell status, and whether he really truly does have Sam's soul (I say he doesn't, but we'll see), but seeing the boils effect was nifty. Still wished we saw more of Crowley though, especially what he had to say after the events of the hunt and why they didn't deliver to him. But seeing Mark Sheppard is always a win in my books. Just needed some Castiel, that's all. ;p

++ Dean, stop being a hypocrite. You worked with demons before, hell you worked with Crowley himself before. Remember, last season? While this might be under different circumstances, you were his pawn then and you are now, so stop acting like this is a blasphemous thing to do.

++ Jared was surprisingly good in this episode. Again I'm not normally a fan of Sam, and Jared's acting can be questionable at times, but he was rather good here. I think I prefer him with the vacant snarking than the emotional puppying/hilarious raeg!face he does most of the time.

++ Boy still needs a serious haircut and to shave those hideous sideburns though. Just saying. *kanye!shrug*

++ Again, the emotionless snark was perfection. Jared really gets into this role of soulless!Sam really well, and this episode kind of shows how much fun he has with it.



++ The entire time with the Skinwalker stuff I kept thinking....Sam Merlotte? I mean seriously, I know I am not the only one who thought that.

++ Sniper!Dean was definitely awesome. This isn't the first time we've seen him with a sniper rifle, I remember in the earlier seasons he handled one. But it's been a long time since then and seeing him, up high targeting on someone was definitely one of the highlights of the episode for me. But you know what's even better than sniper!Dean on the roof? Sniper!Dean + handgun:



Double the gun!porn = me likey. ♥

++ I was legitimately sad seeing this scene:



While the entire concept of the Skinwalkers taking on "families" only to turn them to have more in the pack was creepy enough, especially with seeing Lucky earlier in the episode kind of watching the woman as a dog in a stalker-ish manner and killing her boyfriend, I was legitimately sad for him by the very end. It's an unfortunate heartbreaking story, and I think what got me was that very last scene with him and the woman. I mean, honestly, she was in the right for being angry and slamming the door in his face, but I think it's just him knowing she would do that be apologizing and thanking her anyway that really got to me. Like he felt the need to have it be said without her knowing the entire story, or even accepting his words. He just needed to say them out loud for her to hear to he could move on with himself. And seeing him turning back into a dog and wandering off was also heartbreaking....I thought he would have committed suicide by getting hit by a car or something, but I'm glad he didn't. I like that he's off into the world now. It's a bittersweet ending for him, which I liked.

++ Something was missing though.....




Overall: It was an okay episode, not the best and it certainly was more filler than anything, but it was one of those episodes that could have been boring had it not gone the way it did. I think they did good with handling the Skinwalker concept and the Lucky story, I felt that was the most genuine thing to come out from this episode was his story. Crowley continues to be entertaining, Dean continues to be a dick and dwelling over stupid shit, Sam also continues to entertain me with his soulless snarky humor, and of course he wants to become the other Sam which I hope we get more answers soon regarding the whole soul situation because I am lost on what it still means. Either way, I thought this was a good episode considering how it could have gone.


Also, is it just me or have the episode titles for this show this season kind of risen to ridiculous levels? Between these, the official show score song titles and the new promos they have out now (you know, the over-photoshopped and airbrushed AU!promo), I somehow feel like it's become a parody of itself. I don't mind that the show is finally getting more publicity and all but, idk. It feels rather weird to me.

Anyone remember these promotional photoshoots from like the earlier seasons, or even this fantastic S1 promo? Whatever happened to having those, huh? Variety CW, we need some.

Date: 2010-11-14 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
You and me both. Sadly I think SPN has gone into zombie season territory. SPN used to be a show I really looked forward to, but last week I didn't watch the new episode for four days because I kept forgetting to.

Date: 2010-11-14 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I purposefully skipped a few episodes knowing that it wouldn't capture my interest or that I would get bored easily, or that I just didn't care for it. And it's a sad thing when your audience just skips because they know how predictable the show can be and the rehashing of storylines we simply don't want to see every single episode.

Date: 2010-11-14 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'And it's a sad thing when your audience just skips because they know how predictable the show can be and the rehashing of storylines we simply don't want to see every single episode.'
Yeah. I used to watch all the episodes (even the bad ones) but now when I miss an episode it doesn't bother me because it doesn't seem like I'm missing much. At least I have new shows to look forward too.

Date: 2010-11-14 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Same here. I have other shows to be all excited and enthusiastic about, and honestly while I am still a fan of this show my worries outweigh any excitement I used to have and that's just sad. :(

Date: 2010-11-14 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'I have other shows to be all excited and enthusiastic about, and honestly while I am still a fan of this show my worries outweigh any excitement I used to have and that's just sad. :('
True. I think the only thing I'm looking forward to this season is Castiel and Crowley (and some of the other minor characters) because Sam and Dean just don't feel like Sam and Dean anymore and they keep rehashing brotherly angst. Hopefully Cas and Crowley will have at least one scene where they actually interact.

Date: 2010-11-14 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
All I'm asking for is a.) for them not to screw up Castiel's character like they're doing with everyone else, b.) have him and Crowley and Balthazar be in the same scene together, and Gabriel too because dammit he needs to make a comeback and soon, and of course c.) for Dean and Castiel to hug, goddammit. and to have hot wall!slamming sex and be together forever

Everything else I honestly don't care for, but I just want those things to come true. *crosses fingers and prays to Castiel*

Date: 2010-11-14 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'All I'm asking for is a.) for them not to screw up Castiel's character like they're doing with everyone else'
I really hope he doesn't get screwed up too. Considering that his next episode, episode 10, looks to be written by two people I've never heard of (Brett Matthews & Jenny Klein) I'm worried.

'have him and Crowley and Balthazar be in the same scene together, and Gabriel too because dammit he needs to make a comeback and soon, and of course c.) for Dean and Castiel to hug, goddammit. and to have hot wall!slamming sex and be together forever'
This! All of it!

Date: 2010-11-14 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I'm worried too, which makes me wished that Ben Edlund wrote that episode instead of the next one or that Jeremy Carver had stayed. I mean, I know I can't judge on new writers until I see what they can do, but there had been guest writers for the show that had absolutely no idea what they were doing in terms of writing ("Red Sky at Morning" from S3 was an episode Kripke hated because the writer just didn't get the show, which is why that particular writer never came back). So yeah, I am excessively worried for that episode in particular. I hope it's nothing and we're all panicking about nothing, but still......

Castiel is the one character I just hope they don't fucking mess with. He's my precious angel and if they ruin his character I am gonna be beyond pissed. I will leave the show actually if that happens.

Date: 2010-11-14 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'which makes me wished that Ben Edlund wrote that episode instead of the next one or that Jeremy Carver had stayed.'
I know. Those two were pretty much the only two writers that I thought really got Cas though out season four and five. I just hope the team writing for episode 10 aren't another Dabb and Loflin (I liked Weekend at Bobby's but that's it).

"Red Sky at Morning" from S3 was an episode Kripke hated because the writer just didn't get the show, which is why that particular writer never came back.'
I had no idea.

'Castiel is the one character I just hope they don't fucking mess with. He's my precious angel and if they ruin his character I am gonna be beyond pissed. I will leave the show actually if that happens.'
Me too. Sadly he's pretty much the only reason I'm still watching this season. If the show had gone back to just Sam and Dean (especially THIS Sam and Dean) hunting monsters every week, I would have given up after the first episode.

Date: 2010-11-14 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I just hope the team writing for episode 10 aren't another Dabb and Loflin (I liked Weekend at Bobby's but that's it).

I think a lot of that though was due to Jensen's directorial debut. Even though I know he probably wouldn't have influenced the script anyway, but you know what I mean. ;)

Me too. Sadly he's pretty much the only reason I'm still watching this season. If the show had gone back to just Sam and Dean (especially THIS Sam and Dean) hunting monsters every week, I would have given up after the first episode.

Same.

Date: 2010-11-14 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'I think a lot of that though was due to Jensen's directorial debut.'
True. I also think that the fact that it focused on characters NOT Sam and Dean and they gave us two female characters with good heads on their shoulders (and really fleshed out Rufus and Crowley) didn't hurt.

Date: 2010-11-14 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I think that episode is going as my favorites of the season for those reasons alone, to be honest. We got more of Bobby and these supporting/secondary characters that were more fleshed out, nobody died, and Bobby got to verbally bitch out Sam and Dean. I'd say that episode was gold just for those moments. :D

Date: 2010-11-15 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
Oh yes. Bobby's rant really made the whole episode for me. The awesomeness that was Rufus, Sheriff Mills, Crowley and Bobby's almost love interest was icing on the cake.

Date: 2010-11-15 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
We really need more episodes like this. Less focus on the boys, more focus on supporting characters and their lives, showing us that yes they do have lives outside of the Winchesters and their problems. I would love to see the lifestyles of the angels in Heaven, and what Castiel is dealing with.

Again I say, if this doesn't happen at all this season I want a frakking spin-off, dammit.

Date: 2010-11-15 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'I would love to see the lifestyles of the angels in Heaven, and what Castiel is dealing with.

Again I say, if this doesn't happen at all this season I want a frakking spin-off, dammit.'

That would be awesome, both of them. I just hope we see some of the angel civil war (or even the Sheriff of Heaven and the King of Hell beating on each other) and it's not just another excuse to explain why Cas isn't in an episode.

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Date: 2010-11-17 06:48 pm (UTC)
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What? 6.10 is being written by new people? Now I'm worried about the Castiel spoiler.

Date: 2010-11-17 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
Yep. Their names are Brett Matthews & Jenny Klein. I'm worried too.

Date: 2010-11-17 07:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
OH GOD. I've seen episode stills, and now I'm really worried. I hope to God the thing ends up weird or tricky and not genuine in any way. (If you know what I'm talking about, then you know. If you don't, you don't.)

Date: 2010-11-17 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'(If you know what I'm talking about, then you know. If you don't, you don't.)'
Sadly ,I know exactly what picture you're talking about. I really hope this is one of those cases where what happens on screen is NOTHING like what the pictures make it look like; I just don't see how THAT could be in-character for Cas (I don't think even Ben Edlund could write that in-character) unless it was some kind of fake out. I also really hope that Misha was just trolling the fandom when he said Cas was going to get laid this season, I don't see that being in-character AT ALL.

Date: 2010-11-17 07:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
Misha could definitely be trolling, but the pictures don't lie (UNLESS THEY DO GOD I HOPE THEY DO). I just hope it's something like 5.10, except more fatal, LOL. I would say X was coming onto him, totally one sided, except for the fact that's he's reaching out.

Date: 2010-11-17 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'I just hope it's something like 5.10, except more fatal, LOL. I would say X was coming onto him, totally one sided, except for the fact that's he's reaching out.'
True, please let it be a fake out or at least he was whammyed by a siren.

Date: 2010-11-17 07:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
Hey, maybe Cas exorcises the demon, and the real girl is so grateful she kisses him! Okay, probably not....

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Date: 2010-11-17 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Reading this exchange has gotten me even more terrified with a huge DNW for that episode, to be honest.

I haven't seen these episode stills and I haven't bothered reading any spoilers besides the episode description that was released a little while ago. But I don't think I'll be watching that episode next Friday until people reassure me that this is something we're overreacting to and it's nothing huge.

Misha loves trolling us, he loves to fuck with us that's for sure and he knows the kinds of reactions we're bound to give off. So it could be just for nothing, but you never know....

*bites nails and goes off to distract herself with other fandoms*

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Date: 2010-11-17 06:50 pm (UTC)
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All I'm asking for is a.) for them not to screw up Castiel's character like they're doing with everyone else

Yes, please leave Castiel alone! Though I think they already screwed up a little by having him not answer Sam after Sam got out of the pit. Considering that Sam reappeared basically that same day, why wouldn't Cas check that out? What happened to Team Free Will?

Date: 2010-11-17 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I think that's supposed to be part of the "mystery" or whatever, unless Castiel truly didn't know about. However I am just tired of them playing with us and hopefully they can get straight to the point with all the weirdness this season. I usually don't mind having mysteries, but this season is sucking hugely with everything currently. They just fail at explaining things or giving anything concrete in terms of continuity of their own frakking timeline, goddammit. :/

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