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NBC saves/picks up Brooklyn Nine-Nine for a sixth season! (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧

I'm honestly still reeling from everything that's happened, to be honest. It has been quite a rollarcoaster of emotions during the last 48 hours, from the announcement of FOX cancelling B99 to hearing about all the fan campaigning and overwhelming response about the news, to the possibility of other networks wanting to renew it only to find out that they all passed on the opportunity, therefore our hopes being dashed, and then, lo and behold, NBC being our savior and reviving the B99 for another season. It makes sense, though, considering that all of Mike Schur's other shows are on NBC (Parks and Recreation and The Good Place), so it's the perfect fit tbh. It'll be getting a 13-episode order, and no matter whether it'll be considered the last season or not, I'm just thankful that it got picked up.

Granted, there's been a lot of emotions lately as the announcements of which shows are renewed and which are cancelled, because it is that time of year again and it's never a fun time, and unfortunately Friday was a bloodbath of shows being cancelled left and right.

All of this has brought up the never-ending rants/discussions/debates once again about how antiquated the Nielsen rating system is and how television needs to change the way it perceives the viewership of their audience, especially in terms of adapting to how technology has changed and needing to take into account viewership in other countries (including making streaming easily accessible and available for them that isn't just US-based, which is a huge part of the problem). It's a broken outdated system that traditional media needs to get rid of and find a better, more efficient way of calculating the numbers and views for shows from all platforms worldwide.

Date: 2018-05-12 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] author-by-night.livejournal.com
Whew! I always wondered why it wasn't on NBC in the first place. I realize Michael Schur isn't forever bound to NBC, of course, but all of his shows have been there, and it just feels like a very NBC show.

Yeah, the Nielsen Ratings applied when everyone watched TV the same way. (And honestly, I'm sure even back then, there were faults.) Now there are so many ways to watch shows.

Date: 2018-05-12 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Yeah, I always felt like B99 was kind of mismatched with FOX, and while I didn't think much at the time, it did seem rather strange that it was the only Mike Schur comedy not on NBC, since it would've fit so much better with that lineup. So them reviving it and bring it onto their network makes much more sense.

I know that it's probably harder now with all these different ways of watching shows, including our habits of how we end up watching them, which is probably why they've kept it for as long as they have. But it's such an inefficient system, and it needs to be changed because it doesn't make sense in our technologically advanced world as it is.

Date: 2018-05-12 11:04 am (UTC)
violateraindrop: (The Orville: Crew)
From: [personal profile] violateraindrop
I'm soooo happy that it'll be on NBC. Schur's new comedy (Abby's?) will also be on NBC. Considering The Good Place also has shorter seasons, that might not be a sign that this is the final season. Maybe that was the plan all along and Fox didn't like it?

Now I'm mostly sad about Lucifer cancelation. That's one that I didn't expect at all. And neither did anyone involved, so we already know it'll end on a cliffhanger -.-

I think Fox took into account how many people recorded The Orville and watched it within 7 days. That's already a step forward. Amazon Germany has some shows they get rather quickly, some after one day. The Crossing (which was also just canceled) can be viewed four weeks after the premiere in the US which is pretty cool. That also means it's only on episode three and now it's already canceled. I wish there was a way to legally watch more US shows after a day or even a week.

Date: 2018-05-13 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Perhaps, I don't know. At least NBC saved it, so that's all that matters. :)

Although I didn't watch Lucifer I am bummed about it being cancelled, because I've heard so many good things about it and I also thought it was doing very well for itself. :/

I wish there was a way to legally watch more US shows after a day or even a week.

Yeah, this is an issue I've seen brought up many times. Networks have to consider international audiences which also count as views, and in order to do that they have to make it readily available for them on streaming sites. I don't know how comparable it is to movies, and I'm not that knowledgeable on how it works, but don't movies in theaters often count international sales along with domestic box office sales? Why can't television do the same thing? IDK, there is just such an imbalance now with different ways people watch shows (not always live, either) that the ratings system needs to be updated to accommodate these changes for the modern era, and this should include international audiences as well because it is unfair when their views don't count, either.

Date: 2018-05-12 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malicat.livejournal.com
Yesterday I actually said to a friend that I'd prefer for NBC to pick it up and now it actually happened. Obviously I would have been happy about ANY network but hopefully they will pair it up with The Good Place now on thursdays :)
I had more shows cancelled yesterday (Lucifer especially hurt) so this was really nice to read first thing after I woke up!

Date: 2018-05-13 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I loved reading the blurb that NBC made about rescuing the show, saying that they regretted not taking it on when they had the chance years ago and are happy that B99 is back where it should belong, and I absolutely agree! I'm amazed that it lasted as long as it did on FOX, but FOX barely did right by it anyway. Either way, I'm just glad that it has a new and better home. :)

I read about Lucifer and even though I hadn't watched the show, I knew many loved it and seeing it gone, and probably on a cliffhanger too, is just sad. :(

Date: 2018-05-12 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noybusiness.livejournal.com
Now if they'd only do the same thing for Lucifer.

Date: 2018-05-12 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I haven't watched the show yet (it's been on my to-watch list), but I was sad to hear about Lucifer being cancelled. :(

Date: 2018-05-12 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haebin.livejournal.com
I am glad that Brooklyn Nine-Nine got another season. I didn't watch it yet but like always I have it on my to-watch-list. A close friend of mine is a huge fan of it and always telling me I should watch it.
I can't understand why really good series getting cancelled and bad ones getting one season after another. -_-
But afterall, we get a second season!

\o/

Date: 2018-05-13 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
It's such a wonderful show, and it's very easy to binge-watch, not just because the episodes are half and hour but it's also due to how hilarious it is. It's very addicting. Someone commented on how B99 is like a warm hug, and it's so true. I'm so happy it was quickly revived by NBC. :)

I can't understand why really good series getting cancelled and bad ones getting one season after another. -_-

The system is fucked, that's why. Not just the outdated Nielsen system, but the system as a whole with the constant greed of money and whatnot. Money rules the system, and many good things get screwed over in the process.

Date: 2018-05-13 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haebin.livejournal.com
The system is fucked, that's why. Not just the outdated Nielsen system, but the system as a whole with the constant greed of money and whatnot. Money rules the system, and many good things get screwed over in the process.

I never heard of the Nielsen System before but I am absolutely agreeing with you. It's just all about the money and really good series don't get a chance for other seasons. :(

Date: 2018-05-13 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
It's a very outdated system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_ratings) that, no matter what, it's not really an accurate calculation of how many people are watching something especially these days where there are alternative options to watch shows. The debate and criticisms of the Nielsen rating system has been going on for years, and there has been little change to how they operate.

Date: 2018-05-17 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haebin.livejournal.com
Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining it to me. :)

Date: 2018-05-12 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
I'm super happy at the news itself and at how fast NBC reacted. :D

Date: 2018-05-12 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I believe it was a combination of Mike Schur's influence (all his shows have been on NBC except for B99) and the fact that B99 is technically owned by NBC anyway, so it would make sense for them to pick it up. I'm just so, so happy. It's been a whiplash of emotions, let me tell you.

Date: 2018-05-12 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omgpeyton.livejournal.com
I'm so happy for the fandom! I can only imagine what sorts of emotions that forces someone to go through.

But I agree that the discussions that have come from this (and many cancellations in the past year) have been interesting and imo, SO necessary. The fact that it's so hard to stream shows in other countries, and honestly just in general sometimes, is so outdated. The fact that episode purchases from things like itunes aren't counted in just doesn't make sense! We live in a wonderfully convenient "watch when you have time" and "binge watch" culture. That really needs to be considered.

Date: 2018-05-13 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Just imagine how it was for the cast who were just as emotional as us, if not more, during this whole situation.

We live in a wonderfully convenient "watch when you have time" and "binge watch" culture. That really needs to be considered.

Exactly. Times have changed from when we all used to sit around and watch shows weekly, now with all these different platforms and different ways of viewing something to fit our convenience people have stopped waiting a week just to watch an episode of their favorite show. Never mind that even that had become a hassle in itself with all the hiatuses and such, and oftentimes we would forget when a show returned due to our busy schedules and too many other shows to keep up with (and also due to networks never properly advertising anything), television became more of a chore to keep up with. Now, we have the luxury to have some options available, and those should be taken into account.

Traditional media really needs to get with the times and stop holding onto an outdated system that isn't that efficient anyway.

Date: 2018-05-12 06:46 pm (UTC)
cookiegirl: (B99 Jake teddy)
From: [personal profile] cookiegirl
So, so relieved!

I find it mind boggling that there are so many things they don't take into account with the ratings.

Date: 2018-05-13 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
It is an ancient inefficient system that isn't always accurate anyway. Sure, when it comes to cancellations/renewals of shows it's mostly based on the main decision by TPTB which isn't always about ratings, but the Nielsen ratings are a huge contributing factor in these decisions and it's just such an outdated system anyway.
Edited Date: 2018-05-13 02:17 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-05-12 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldrain.livejournal.com
FOX has cancelled so many shows that I'm wondering what the heck is left?! lol. I only watch a few shows and only one was renewed (that's staying on the network).

YESSSSSS. I think The CW is one of the few networks that takes online streaming etc. into consideration over the Nielsen rating system that's beyond outdated.

Date: 2018-05-13 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I know, right? They basically did a mass purge and are practically revamping their lineup for whatever reason. I know that FOX is reviving that horrendously conservative Tim Allen show that was cancelled a while ago (why are they doing it? I don't even know), which some speculated that once that was a go B99 was definitely going to be gone. But with everything else, idek. I never understand why networks often get rid of most of their shows, even with the well-received, highly rated shows.

The CW is one of the only networks that doesn't cancel anything unless it has 100% lower than low ratings. While that's definitely a blessing in most cases, sometimes it can get pretty annoying because sometimes certain shows go on longer than they need to be. Regardless, their business model is mostly not going by the traditional way of counting only the Nielsen rating system. Which is what every other television network should be doing.

Date: 2018-05-13 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldrain.livejournal.com
Yeah I'm over here trying to think of what's actually sticking around. I can't believe they're reviving that terrible Tim Allen show that should stay cancelled forever. OMFG yessssssss. I'll never forget when one of my shows was cancelled because, wait for it, they had good ratings but they thought the ratings should be higher for its budget. I'm forever wondering why they didn't renew it and just change the show's budget. idek network's logic.

Yep! I mean there's def some shows that have been around way past their expiration date on The CW, but at least their shows come back most of the time unless the ratings are beyond bad between the outdated rating system and their streaming etc. ratings. It's really sad that my initial worries about Supergirl being picked up by The CW became reality though. I really did love that show back in season one.

Date: 2018-05-13 07:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I'm forever wondering why they didn't renew it and just change the show's budget. idek network's logic.

Yeah, it's honestly super ridiculous some of the excuses given, because most times it makes no sense. Granted, I know that it's more complicated behind closed doors with negotiating and making deals and whatnot, sometimes both sides can't come to a compromise, etc. But when Netflix cancelled Sense8, for example, there was no reason given aside from the fact that the CEO decided that it was time to purge some of their shows because none of them were getting cancelled yet. As if that is ever a logical reason to cancel something, just because none of their shows have been cancelled yet. You'd think that would be a good thing. It was the stupidest thing, especially since Sense8 was considered a huge sensational hit when it premiered. True, it probably was expensive to produce, since they go all over the shoot scenes in different countries and whatnot, but they could have just lessened the budget and still make it work instead of outright cancelling the show, like, a week after the second season premiered.

Also, I'll never understand why networks in general never bother to tell the shows ahead of time that they might be in danger of being cancelled so they can have time to wrap up their season in a finalized kind of way. No major cliffhangers, nothing. I always hate it when a show is cancelled and left completely unfinished. It happens more often that not, and it's like, just allow them to finish it? Even if it's quickly wrapped up, let there be a conclusion at least.

It's really sad that my initial worries about Supergirl being picked up by The CW became reality though. I really did love that show back in season one.

Same. I was worried it would turn into a melodramatic mess, and guess what? It did. S1 was perfection and I adored it, but I haven't even bothered continuing watching after that knowing some of the shit that has happened and continue to happen. I don't know whether it was because of the move that did it, since I do wonder if it had remained on CBS would it have gone in the direction is has gone now, or are the showrunners just always like this. We'll just never know. The CW may not cancel many of their shows due to operating differently than most networks, but they still have a shitty way of having certain expectations of how shows on their networks should be like. Not all of their shows are riddled with it, though, but the majority of them are which is disappointing.

Date: 2018-05-14 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldrain.livejournal.com
Yeah. A lot more def goes on behind the scenes, and then some shows that are still going way way past their expiration date are kept around because they do well overseas. Sometimes it's also because, even though it's now crap, it's ratings are still good and its still making them money so they're like, might as well keep it around.

YESSSSSS. The reason for Sense8's cancellation blew my mind. I could see if they said, hey, the second season flopped hard between its reception and its viewing numbers. I would've been like, okay. THIS HURTS but it's a legit reason. The actual reason just didn't make sense. Heyyyyy we haven't cancelled any of our originals so I guess we'll just cancel some!!! And the second season barely premiered so there really wasn't any legit reasoning even behind the scenes because there wasn't enough time for them to be like, the numbers are not looking good guys if that was going to the the case.

lol omg I was legit just posting about this in a FFAF post. I wish shows were given notice at least five episodes in advance when they're going to be cancelled so they can wrap things up. I know this is wishful thinking since, depending on the show and network, they wrap up filming anywhere between halfway through airing the season to a month or two ahead so that'd be really short notice. On the same token, they can also be like, hey. You guys are on the line and things aren't looking good... but I know a lot of networks choose what they'll be cancelling way ahead of time and still don't give notice. It's like, let these shows wrap things up. Give them a two hour wrapping things up special etc. This is a story with viewers invested in them. Why not build some trust with them that hey, you do care about them even though ratings etc. etc. are making you guys have to cancel them? Because I've been burned by two networks cancelling crap and barely even promoting their shows etc. before they even start airing and then dropping the ball once they start. I honestly don't trust that any of my shows on ABC and FOX will be given a fair chance so when my shows are cancelled there I'm like, well, I knew they were probably going to axe the thing and I went in thinking they were going to axe the thing so I'm happy that said show got more time than I thought they would.

Same hereeeee. I tried to keep up with season two but it just got so bad and everything was being destroyed and... I just pretend it stayed cancelled and The CW started a whole new Supergirl with the same cast and it's just far from being up to par. I think that, in part, it was due to the filming location moving because they did lose a main player and then they tried to recreate that with a new character who was just crap. On top of that, they nipped things that were set up from day one in the bud from the start etc. and some of it was... very CW showish. Not all of their shows are this way, that's for sure, but a lot of them seem to have certain things that are all common with them and I have to wonder if that's the network putting their two cents in behind the scenes because it's just too common for it not to be.

Date: 2018-05-15 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Sometimes it's also because, even though it's now crap, it's ratings are still good and its still making them money so they're like, might as well keep it around.

Yep, you can usually tell how networks value the quantity over quality with certain shows that have gone on for so long. It's all about money, not about the storytelling. You can pinpoint when a show started losing steam and just basically became a repetitive shadow of what is used to be as it goes on without any sign of it stopping.

I wish shows were given notice at least five episodes in advance when they're going to be cancelled so they can wrap things up.

Also, along those same lines, I also wish that creators/showrunners would treat seasons like it would be their last. Write seasons where everything is self-contained, the seasonal arc is dealt with and there are no massive cliffhangers. That is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to shows these days where they always have to outdo each other when it comes to finale cliffhangers, because shows can get cancelled no matter what and wouldn't you want to at least have something feel completed and satisfactory to you audience rather than frustrated should your show get unexpectedly cancelled at any given moment? So, while I do think networks should warn creators about the possibility of cancellation esp if they are on the bubble early on, it is also the responsibility of the creators of said show as well.

Not all of their shows are this way, that's for sure, but a lot of them seem to have certain things that are all common with them and I have to wonder if that's the network putting their two cents in behind the scenes because it's just too common for it not to be.

Oh, I definitely believe that this is a network meddling thing, no question about it. I mentioned elsewhere in comparing the CW to the common annoying tropes often seen in YA fiction, where we see these things time and time again despite the fact that everyone hates it it's still present because that's how the publishing industry thinks that's what people want to see in YA, also because it's an easy sell. Similarly, the CW is using a common trend throughout their shows by meddling into these stories with things they think the audiences wants and it's safer and makes easy money. It's just funny because the CW was the merging of the WB and UPN, which both those networks had decent programming back in the day especially with teen dramas, but suddenly when the CW happened all of those interesting drama ideas just disappeared and we're left with...whatever it is they're doing now. All the same cookie-cutter melodramatic bullshit.

Date: 2018-05-15 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldrain.livejournal.com
Yep. Off the top of my head, I can think of three shows that have been around long past their expiration date but they're money makers with big fandoms so they keep on going.

I also wish that creators/showrunners would treat seasons like it would be their last.
I can def get behind this. There are so many shows with huge cliffhangers that never came back. I think that so many of them know they're on the line too when they decide to do this big cliffhanger as what turns out to be the series finale. Lucifer did this. The showrunners said they did a cliffhanger so FOX would have choice but to not cancel them. I'm like WHAT IN THE WHAT?! And FOX is known to cancel shows because they didn't do well for five seconds. I'm like OMFGGGGG.

Also, turns out I lied to myself about not being butthurt about the Lucifer cancellation because I haven't been this butthurt about a show's cancellation in a long time lmao.

Yessssssssss. I mean, I love me some CW shows, but damn so many of them have the same tropes, the same exact mistakes... It almost seems like there's a list of things they have to meet just for it to be on the network sometimes XD And same with YA fiction. It's like there's a thing that went over well-ish once and everyone is either jumping on board or told to jump on board when everyone is like NNNOOOOO. TV shows and YA fiction have been doing this with love triangles for some time. I'm like, poop or get off the pot!!! lol.

Date: 2018-05-17 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I think that so many of them know they're on the line too when they decide to do this big cliffhanger as what turns out to be the series finale.

I hate this so much, because while I can kinda understand the thought process behind it, it's such a horrible tactic that always backfires because it hurts nobody but the show itself, and also the fans.

One of my shows that got cancelled last year did this, which I'm still scratching my head as to why. They had only just barely been given another season previously, and they admitted that it was due to the overwhelming fan presence wanting more, which should've been a clue that they needed to continue progressing the story further and make it so at least something was somewhat resolved in case they don't get renewed again. But of course, nothing happened all season long and it left us with a cliffhanger that made all the fans confused and frustrated. So, even though I was sad it was cancelled, it did make sense since the season went absolutely nowhere fast, when they should have been hustling to try and make a completed story, especially when they knew that they were already on the line as it was. Ugh. :/

Date: 2018-05-18 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldrain.livejournal.com
Yeah. It doesn't make any sense tbh. Why purposely go out on a cliffhanger?!

What show was it? I was going to say The Exorcist lol, but that got cancelled this year and I don't know if they went out on a cliffhanger since I still have the series finale on my DVR waiting for me to watch.

Date: 2018-05-18 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
What show was it?

It was Stitchers, which was on Freeform. It was a show that didn't get enough attention and was struggling a lot since it debuted in ratings, though it had a small but strong and passionate online fanbase. They barely got renewed for a third season, and when they did they attributed the renewal to the vocal fanbase that wanted more of the show, which should've been a sign that they were going to work on actually progressing the plot forward. But once S3 rolled around, none of that happened. It seemed like it was less plot and more romantic nonsense for, well, all the characters which wasn't like that in previous seasons. And for for someone who actually enjoyed the show for what it was, even I was annoyed with the direction it was taking. So it didn't come as a surprise, at least to me, when it was cancelled. I wasn't surprised, just disappointed that they had an interesting premise and plot but did almost nothing with it, just had little bits and pieces spread out throughout the series.

The third season ended on, yet again, another cliffhanger that they always ended up doing, tempting us for something that could've led to something more but we know that it was probably going to take an entire season before we got any answers, which was barely enough to move the plot along.

Date: 2018-05-13 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maybe.livejournal.com
It's a broken outdated system that traditional media needs to get rid of and find a better, more efficient way of calculating the numbers and views for shows from all platforms worldwide
Srsly. CW is a little better at this and are way ahead of the other major networks, but I also think they have an issue with listening a little too much to the people on social media. I've seen so many CW shows start off great but then they start letting the loud obnoxious fanbases dictate what happens on their shows. I'm seeing it lately with Riverdale and it's irritating me so much.
Edited Date: 2018-05-13 01:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-05-13 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
but I also think they have an issue with listening a little too much to the people on social media. I've seen so many CW shows start off great but then they start letting the loud obnoxious fanbases dictate what happens on their shows.

Yeah, that's the biggest issue the CW has as a whole. Sure, they don't follow the traditional way of calculating views and ratings like everyone else does, which can be a saving grace for some shows, but the CW is too much of a pushover when it comes allowing the loud vocal fanbase dictate what should or shouldn't happen on a show. Also, I think the CW thinks that all of their shows should be targeted to a very specific demographic and will alter things to what they think the audiences wants versus what should actually happen organically within the story. It's irritating and it brings shows that started off good down into a hot melodramatic mess when they shouldn't be.

It make an example, think of YA books. There's YA books, and then there's the YA™ subgenre within the YA category where it is literally every single bad cliched trope you can think of that follows the same formula, the same plot, the same forced romantic nonsense, etc. That's what the CW is. There may be good shows here and there that don't follow that particular formula which I'm grateful for, but as a whole network the CW it is literally the bad side of the YA genre.

(Which is very odd when you think about how the CW was the merging of the WB and UPN, since both those networks had actual good programming back in the day, so idk what happened to make the combined CW think that what they're doing now is a good business model.)

Date: 2018-05-13 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I totally agree about how frustrating it is when networks don’t recognise how viewership has changed, international audiences have been crying out for a way to legally steam shows the following day, but of course it’s more important for Sky or whoever to keep their exclusive viewing rights. I feel like something will have to change soon though, because so many younger audiences are exclusively watching online and on their phones/not being counted by Neilson, and that number is only going to grow.

Date: 2018-05-13 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I feel like something will have to change soon though, because so many younger audiences are exclusively watching online and on their phones/not being counted by Neilson, and that number is only going to grow.

Exactly. Many people aren't watching live television anymore because there are other alternatives to watching something, so traditional media relying on an ancient (often unreliable) system to count numbers isn't going to help matters in the long run. They are only hurting themselves if they aren't going to adapt and keep up with the times, which then fucks everyone else over in the process. It's a lose-lose situation, basically.

Date: 2018-05-14 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giallarhorn.livejournal.com
That has got to be one of the fastest turnarounds in recent history, at least.

The problem is that there hasn't been nearly as much movement in the sector to update the rating system, or more specifically, develop/deploy the system that'd enable tracking it on a much better basis. Netflix/Amazon prime get away with it because they got developed much more around it, so I kinda get why they use it (in place, more cost effective than developing a new one, etc), even if it doesn't change streaming is now the new future.

Date: 2018-05-14 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Agreed. I was worried that once all the other supposed networks passed on renewing it that it was done for, but then NBC swept in and saved the day. Granted, I do think once it was announced that FOX cancelled it that Mike Schur immediately was in contact with NBC for the possibility of picking it up. I feel like if Schur didn't have NBC on his side already it would've been a longer waiting game. Regardless, I'm very happy. :D

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they're all very well aware of how things have changed and that they need to update everything for the digital age, but the matter of how is quite difficult to manage because everything is evolving rather quickly. IDK.

Date: 2018-05-15 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giallarhorn.livejournal.com
Yeah, I've heard that Schur had other shows already at NBC, so I suppose it was much easier to pull those strings to get it over there?

I suspect that it's a twofold problem- you have the TV stations themselves trying to pitch it to the advertisers, but afaik you can rewatch something via stream and it'd double count, so that's probably why they're hesitant about shifting to that model for tracking viewership?

Date: 2018-05-14 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4kennedy.livejournal.com
Not watching the show, but I'm happy for all the fans that it got picked up by another chanel. it happens so rarely

Date: 2018-05-14 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
It does happen so rarely, especially with it being picked up the day after its cancellation announcement. That is basically the fastest recovery, not to mention the biggest emotional whiplash I've ever experienced.

Date: 2018-05-15 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meringues.livejournal.com
I'm glad B99 got saved, but I'm gutted that FOX cancelled Lucifer as well... I'd been enjoying Designated Survivor as well, though it's steadily gone downhill since it's impressive pilot

Date: 2018-05-15 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Lucifer is a show that I didn't watch but wanted to because I heard good things about it, and I kept seeing gifs of it so I have been curious, but never quite found the time to sit down and watch an entire season properly. Hearing that it's cancelled (and on a cliffhanger too) is so upsetting. I hate it when shows basically end up getting cancelled on a massive cliffhanger, leaving fans angry and frustrated and unsatisfied. :(

Some are hoping that it finds a new home, but the only network I can probably see picking it up would be the CW, but idk if they would pick up the entire show or just save the character like they did with Constantine.

Date: 2018-05-18 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meringues.livejournal.com
Unfortunately I don't feel like it'll be picked up anywhere :(

Date: 2018-05-19 12:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blakmagjick
See...if I waited on my comment for a couple more entries, I would have seen you posted about it (cause of course you would know this before me...hahah)

I enjoyed the first few episodes that I watched, and I'm looking forward to watching more, and glad that it was picked up!

Date: 2018-05-19 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
lol, it's okay, I kinda figured that you were going through your flist. ;)

B99 is one of those shows that you can just binge-watch and it never gets old. It just continues to be an absolute joy of half an hour entertainment each episode. :)

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