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YOU KNOW IT'S A BEN EDLUND EPISODE WHEN THE DIALOGUE AND BANTER IS WITTY AND LOLARIOUS.

SUPERNATURAL HAVING AN X-FILES TITLE SEQUENCE, WHICH IS KIND OF AWESOME. OF COURSE MISLEADING BECAUSE THEY HAD MISHA IN THAT OPENING SEQUENCE YET HE DIDN'T APPEAR, AND OF COURSE I THOUGHT WITH THE MONTAGE OF THE "DANCING ALIEN" WE WOULD GET A SURPRISE!GABRIEL BUT, NOPE. MAKES ME SAD TO BE HONEST. SO BECAUSE IT'S NECESSARY:



JUST SAYING. BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.

"SO HAVING A SOUL MEANS I HAVE TO SUFFER?"

DING! DING! DING! DING! WELCOME TO SOUL 101 SOULLESS!SAM!

OR AS I'D LIKE TO CALL IT THE "ANGELUS-TO-ANGEL SYNDROME" BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY THAT'S PRECISELY HOW THE SOUL WORKS, OR AT LEAST HOW I CONTINUE TO SEE HOW IT WORKS BECAUSE THE ENTIRE WITHOUT-A-SOUL CONCEPT HAS BEEN DONE TIME AND AGAIN BY BTVS THAT I CANNOT HELP BUT REVERT TO THE ANGEL/ANGELUS HUMAN/DEMON KIND OF THING. AND YET ANGELUS NEVER WAS THIS SLOPPY WITH HIMSELF (HE DID HAVE CENTURIES OF PRACTICE THOUGH, SO YOU KNOW). I'M STILL NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHERE THEY ARE GOING WITH THE ENTIRE SOUL SITUATION - IT'S HARD ENOUGH TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS LET ALONE HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH IT.

SO ANOTHER EPISODE WHICH FEATURES CREATURES THAT MAKE DEALS AND SACRIFICE THINGS. I WAS HOPING FOR MORE MYTHARC LORE IN REGARDS TO THE FAIRIES, BUT WHATEVER.

DEAN GETTING BEAT UP BY A FAIRY IS KIND OF FUNNY THOUGH.

AND OF COURSE THEY HAD TO ADD IN THE HOMOSEXUAL REFERENCE WITH THE "FAIRY" COMMENT.

I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT TO FEEL ABOUT THIS EPISODE. IT WAS CRACKED OUT THAT'S FOR SURE, BUT STILL VERY FILLER WITH ONLY MILD THINGS ABOUT SAM'S SOUL. SO YEAH. THAT'S ABOUT IT.

!

Date: 2010-11-20 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercury973.livejournal.com
OMG THAT WAS NOT EVEN REAL!!!!
LOLOLOLOLOL

MORE CAS! HE WAS IN THE CREDITS!!

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Date: 2010-11-20 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I SWEAR I WAS EXPECTING CASTIEL TO RANDOMLY POP UP AND BE ALL "....FAIRIES?" AT DEAN OR SOMETHING, LOL IDEK.

BUT THE CREDITS IT'S SOOO MISLEADING. LIKE SERIOUSLY? YOU ADD HIM IN THERE ONLY "JUST BECAUSE" AND YOU DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH? LOL LAME. I MEAN YEAH I GET IT, FANCY X-FILES-Y TITLE CARD, BUT COME ON. YOU'RE LEADING ON TONS OF FANGIRLS WHO HAVE BEEN HAVING CASTIEL WITHDRAWALS.

I APPROVE OF THAT MACRO. *nods*

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Date: 2010-11-20 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercury973.livejournal.com
Me realizing no Misha
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Me rewatching The Third Man
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Date: 2010-11-20 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
LOLOLOLOL!!!!

LOVE THAT MISHA GIF. AND THIS MAKES ME WANNA WATCH "THE THIRD MAN" AGAIN. <3 <3 <3

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Date: 2010-11-20 05:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
I WAS EXPECTING CAS TO SHOW UP WHEN DEAN WAS ALONE IN THE MOTEL ROOM AND THE LIGHTS FLICKERED. BUT NO, IT WAS ONLY TINKERBELL.

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Date: 2010-11-21 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
PART OF ME WANTED THAT TINKERBELL TO TURN OUT TO BE GABRIEL IN ~DISGUISE~, BUT ALAS. :(

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Date: 2010-11-21 10:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
I KEPT WAITING FOR THAT CREEPY REDCAP GUY TO TURN INTO A SMIRKING GABRIEL.

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Date: 2010-11-21 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
LOL OMG YES, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT. GABRIEL BEING ALL SNOOPING AROUND AND CREEPY, AND THEN SUDDENLY HE'D BE ALL "SURPRISE! DID YA MISS ME BITCHES?" XD

Date: 2010-11-20 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mulder200.livejournal.com
SO WAIT. DOES THIS MEAN THAT DEAN GOT ANAL PROBED BY FAIRIES? LOL!

(Seriously. What is up with this show and the homoerotic jokes? Not if only they had one main stars kissing a guy.)

OR AS I'D LIKE TO CALL IT THE "ANGELUS-TO-ANGEL SYNDROME" BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY THAT'S PRECISELY HOW THE SOUL WORKS, OR AT LEAST HOW I CONTINUE TO SEE HOW IT WORKS BECAUSE THE ENTIRE WITHOUT-A-SOUL CONCEPT HAS BEEN DONE TIME AND AGAIN BY BTVS THAT I CANNOT HELP BUT REVERT TO THE ANGEL/ANGELUS HUMAN/DEMON KIND OF THING. AND YET ANGELUS NEVER WAS THIS SLOPPY WITH HIMSELF (HE DID HAVE CENTURIES OF PRACTICE THOUGH, SO YOU KNOW). I'M STILL NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHERE THEY ARE GOING WITH THE ENTIRE SOUL SITUATION - IT'S HARD ENOUGH TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS LET ALONE HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH IT.

LOL! I STILL THINK THEY STOLE THE SOULLESS IDEA FROM JOSS WHEDON ONLY JOSS DID IT BETTER!

AND POOR DEAN! I LOVE HIM STRUGGLING TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO SAM ABOUT HAVING A SOUL AND YET NOT QUITE GETTING IT. I FOUND THAT BOTH SAD AND SWEET. I DON'T THINK DEAN REALIZES JUST HOW MUCH NOT SAM IS WITHOUT HIS SOUL.

(FYI, Is it just me or has Dean gotten dumber this season? I wonder about him sometimes.)

Date: 2010-11-20 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED! LOL

But yeah, they really are going for the homoerotic jokes very often. I'm not entirely sure if this is because of the homoerotic subtext they got going on or what, but I would love it if they actually had one of our main guys kissing at least another guy Dean and Castiel preferably....

LOL! I STILL THINK THEY STOLE THE SOULLESS IDEA FROM JOSS WHEDON ONLY JOSS DID IT BETTER!

OF COURSE JOSS DID IT BETTER. JOSS IS BOSS AFTER ALL. ;D AND LIKE MOST THINGS SPN STEALS FROM OTHERS, MOST OF THE TIME THE ORIGINAL SOURCE IS WAY BETTER SINCE SUPERNATURAL ONLY DOES IT FOR EITHER THE LULZ OR IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WITH THEIR OWN MYTHOLOGY. JUST SAYING.

FYI, Is it just me or has Dean gotten dumber this season? I wonder about him sometimes.

Unless they are trying to say that a year without hunting made Dean dumber, or that is Sera Gamble's way of dumbing him down just so "her Sam" could get more screentime. But I don't think Dean is actually dumber, just not given a chance to really show it this season because he's too busy emoing over his fake!domestic life. *rolls eyes* It's funny that you mention this because my mother watched an episode from the last season and she asked whether Sam was the lummox of the brothers because he often has that "duuhhh" expression on his face. LOL!

Date: 2010-11-20 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carameltrap.livejournal.com
My episode is still downloading. Is it ever so slow!

No Misha? DNW. On the other hand, Dean getting beat up by fairies will be a highlight. At least next week will have Misha.

Date: 2010-11-20 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
DEAN GETS BEAT UP BY FAIRIES, AND SAM GETS BEATEN UP BY A GNOME.

JUST A TYPICAL DAY ON SUPERNATURAL, REALLY.

I HAS A SAD THAT MISHA WASN'T IN THIS EPISODE EVEN THOUGH HIS NAME (AND IMAGE) APPEARED IN THE LULZY OPENING CREDITS. EVEN THOUGH YEAH HE'S A REGULAR THEY USUALLY DON'T SHOW HIS NAME IF HE'S NOT FEATURED IN AN EPISODE. IT KIND OF GIVES US FANGIRLS FALSE HOPE, AT THIS POINT.

THE NEW EPPY WON'T AIR UNTIL TWO WEEKS, I THINK. IT'S THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY NEXT WEEK. :)

Date: 2010-11-20 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwaevalarin.livejournal.com
That title sequence was seriously misleading. I was all "Oh, Cas is going to be in that episode? :D" and then he just didn't turn up. :(

I was secretely hoping for a surprise appearance by Gabriel as well. I mean, come on, aliens and fairies? That's his style. But no sign of him either. *sighs*

I thought the episode was funny. Not spectacular but it gave me a laugh and that's the kind of filler episode I don't mind having once in a while.

Date: 2010-11-20 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Seriously! I kept waiting for his to show up, though it seems like they're using his character wisely (plot-driven, not just for filler) so that's good. However it is seriously disappointing when the Show misleads us. It makes me sad when I get all YAY CAS! and then there's no Cas. :(

I WANT GABRIEL BACK OKAY? THIS SEEMED TO BE UP HIS ALLEY OF RANDOMNESS AND COME ON, FAIRIES? HE'S TOTALLY MR. FAIRYLAND OF ARCHANGELS. JUST SAYING.

Yeah. While I would have preferred something plot-related I enjoyed this episode for the entertainment it provided, the majority of it had to do with the script which, praise Ben Edlund for making such witty banters between the brothers. XD

Date: 2010-11-21 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwaevalarin.livejournal.com
I'm all for using his character more plot-driven. So get his civil war in Heaven plot on screen already.
But really, this epsiode actually did work well without Cas and there wasn't really any room for him in the story. It was just disappointing to not have him in it because I got my hopes up after seeing Misha's name in the credits.

YES! BRING GABRIEL BACK! PLEASE! THIS EPISODE MADE ME REALISE EVEN MORE HOW MUCH I MISS MY FAVOURITE ARCHANGEL.

Date: 2010-11-20 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'OF COURSE MISLEADING BECAUSE THEY HAD MISHA IN THAT OPENING SEQUENCE YET HE DIDN'T APPEAR'
Does this mean the writers have wised up and figured out that if they put Misha's name in the credits people will watch just to see if he's there?

'I'M STILL NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHERE THEY ARE GOING WITH THE ENTIRE SOUL SITUATION - IT'S HARD ENOUGH TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS LET ALONE HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH IT.'
You, me and possibly the writers too.

Date: 2010-11-20 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Does this mean the writers have wised up and figured out that if they put Misha's name in the credits people will watch just to see if he's there?

Perhaps. I mean there has been a series of surprise!appearances by random characters, it makes you wonder if this is a new tactic. I mean, other than him being a regular of course, he's not in every episode and to lure fans in because his name is there? Yeah, definitely clever.

You, me and possibly the writers too.

I'll be letdown, but not entirely surprised, if they just pull something random from their asses to explain it away.

Date: 2010-11-22 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'Yeah, definitely clever.'
Yeah, it reminds me of that promo clip that showed the only Cas scene that was in a certain episode.

'I'll be letdown, but not entirely surprised, if they just pull something random from their asses to explain it away.'
Knowing Sera's writing, that seems likely.

Date: 2010-11-22 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Well they know what will get people's attention, though if they keep teasing us like this I'm gonna be skeptical about their marketing tactics. Though I wouldn't mind more character promos, perhaps with one of Dean/Cas together? *winknudge promo ppl*

Date: 2010-11-22 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
'Though I wouldn't mind more character promos, perhaps with one of Dean/Cas together? *winknudge promo ppl*'
OH, I would love that :D

Date: 2010-11-20 05:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
I THOUGHT WITH THE MONTAGE OF THE "DANCING ALIEN" WE WOULD GET A SURPRISE!GABRIEL

THIS WAS DISAPPOINTING. THOUGH I STILL SAY GABRIEL IS HANGING OUT WITH THE FAIRIES. NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT HE ISN'T.

I'M ACTUALLY NOT GETTING THE ANGELUS/ANGEL REACTION TO THE SOUL. MAINLY BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS THE ANOMALY ON BUFFY, NOT THE RULE. WE SAW SEVERAL CHARACTERS ON BUFFY WHO WERE BOTH HUMAN AND VAMPIRE, AND WEREN'T THAT MUCH DIFFERENT. KILLING PEOPLE, SURE, BUT NOT CRAZY EVIL LIKE ANGELUS WAS. BUT MAINLY, I HOPE THE WRITERS OF SPN HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTION OF 'WHAT IS A SOUL?' TO THEMSELVES, AT LEAST.

BUT I'M REALLY ENJOYING SOULLESS!SAM. HE DOESN'T SET OUT TO BE EVIL, BUT LIKE HE SAID LAST EP, HE'S GOTTEN PEOPLE KILLED. BUT IT'S JUST HILARIOUS THE WAY HE DOESN'T GET ANYTHING. I WISH WE'D HAD MORE OF THIS, INSTEAD OF 7 EPS OF "WEIRD SAM/WHAT'S UP WITH SAM." I LIKE SAM ONCE HE'S NOT PRETENDING TO BE HIS OLD SELF.

Date: 2010-11-20 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
THIS WAS DISAPPOINTING. THOUGH I STILL SAY GABRIEL IS HANGING OUT WITH THE FAIRIES. NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT HE ISN'T.

TRUE THAT, BB. I AM CONVINCED OF THIS UNTIL HE RANDOMLY SHOWS UP AGAIN (WHICH HE WILL AT SOME POINT, THEY PROMISED DAMMIT).

WHILE THAT MAY BE TRUE IN CERTAIN WAYS, I STILL CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THE ANGEL/ANGELUS CONNECTION. MOSTLY BECAUSE THE SOUL/SOULLESSNESS IS JUST TOO SIMILAR IN MY EYES, IF NOT WITH THE MYTHOLOGY THEN THE CONCEPT. UNTIL THEY PROVE OTHERWISE WITH WHATEVER PLAN THEY HAVE, BECAUSE AGAIN WE STILL DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW THE SOUL OPERATION THINGIE WORKS ON THIS SHOW AND IT'S GIVING ME A HEADACHE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT COULD POSSIBLY WORK (LIKE, SAM IS WITHOUT HIS SOUL, HOW DOES THAT EQUAL NOT SLEEPING? SHOULDN'T HE BE GETTING BAGS UNDER HIS EYES? THAT JUST DOESN'T COMPUTE TO ME)

SAM IS JUST A SOCIOPATH. NOT PURE UNDILUTED EVIL LIKE ANGELUS HAD BEEN, BUT NOT GOOD AND CERTAINLY HAS NO PROBLEM KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE WITHOUT BLINKING AN EYE OR BOTHER THINKING TWICE ABOUT ANYTHING. JUST CLEARLY SO SOCIOPATHIC, UN A SARCASTIC KIND OF WAY.

I HONESTLY THINK THIS IS THE BEST ACTING JARED HAS EVER DONE ON THIS SHOW, AND HE'S HAVING FUN WITH IT.

Date: 2010-11-21 10:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
IT'S GIVING ME A HEADACHE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT COULD POSSIBLY WORK (LIKE, SAM IS WITHOUT HIS SOUL, HOW DOES THAT EQUAL NOT SLEEPING?

YEAH, I'M NOT SURE HOW NOT SLEEPING IS RELATED TO A SOUL. AND I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS, SINCE BEFORE THIS, IN THE SPN'VERSE, YOUR SOUL *IS* YOU. THOUGH I THINK I SAID TO SOMEONE ELSE, THAT MAYBE CROWLEY GAVE SAM'S BODY JUST A TINY BIT OF HIS SOUL? JUST ENOUGH TO FUNCTION, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO BE HIM?

Date: 2010-11-21 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
YEAH IDEK EITHER.

I THINK IT'S JUST SHOW'S WAY OF GOING "HEY THIS LOOKS COOL, LET'S TRY THIS!" WHICH IS KIND OF A LAME WAY OF NOT HAVING CONTINUITY OR BOTHERING EXPLAINING IT. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY FORM OF SENSE WHATSOEVER AND THE MORE I TRY TO THINK ABOUT IT THE MORE I GET CONFUSED.

I JUST YEAH. ILLOGICAL SHOW IS ILLOGICAL.

Date: 2010-11-21 10:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverusagi
IT'S LIKE THEY WANTED TO GIVE SAM A REALLY WEIRD SYMPTOM, SO THEY JUST WENT, "HEY, LET'S MAKE HIM NOT SLEEP!'

Date: 2010-11-21 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
HAVING NO SOUL = NO SLEEP

LIKE HAVING HIM BEING CREEPIER THAN CREEPY WITH HIS LACK OF EMPATHY AND JUDGMENT AND JUST BEING AN INSENSITIVE DOUCHEBAG WASN'T THE BIG INDICATORS THEY COULD HAVE? NOPE, LET'S JUST GIVE HIM A RANDOM "NO SLEEP" SYMPTOM AND THEN HE'LL BE QUALIFIED FOR HAVING NO SOUL!
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Date: 2010-11-20 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Yeah, immediately after my theory had been proven right that he had no soul my mind went directly the the Angel/Angelus storyline, which of course I go "oh sure show, that's original." Not that I'm not enjoying seeing Sam being an utter douchebag with his new sociopathic tendencies, but I'm wondering where they're going with this and if it's anything significant at all to whatever bigger picture they have in mind for this season.

Misha is just as important as Jared and Jensen in the main cast, and anyone who says otherwise are lying liars that lie.

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