It's been nagging at my brain...

[rogueslayer452]

Was Sam really in Hell? Because correct me if I'm wrong, but I got the impression that Lucifer's cage was more of solitary confinement. And even if this was the case, had Sam been telling the truth he wouldn't have been there for as long as Dean had been and definitely not in the same kind of context either, which make his nonsensical argument about their experiences being "different" incredibly invalid.

As for what the hell is wrong with Sam, I think whether or not either Lucifer or Michael is still inhabiting him, Sam has no soul. The concept with souls happen to be an interesting with this show, this season has an example of both demons and angels making deals with humans in exchange for their souls. So that could be one possibility. There's also something to take into account that was mentioned back in S2 when YED had been talking with Dean about whether or not Sam had returned "right"; granted it could have just been a manipulative ploy because hey, demon. But we've seen Sam go from being Sammy to being this douchebag with a chip on his shoulder since then, so I'm wondering what if there's any significance to that statement or if I'm just reaching for something to make sense from the mess we've been getting lately.


New episode tonight, so hopefully we'll find out.

I'm sorry y'all, I'm still very upset about Caprica, that's what's been on my mind lately. I hate to even suggest it, but Syfy has treated Caprica like how FOX treated Firefly, and it depresses and pisses me off. ;__;

Comments

[silverusagi]

I'm guessing Sam wasn't in Hell proper. Wherever Lucifer was locked before, it sounded like he didn't have any contact with demons. The YED had to slaughter a room full of nuns to just *talk* to him.

I'm also wondering if Sam is soulless. It would be interesting, since in the SPN verse people aren't generally up and walking without souls. Whoever has their soul only gets it after the person dies. So maybe they'll have to get Sam's soul back?

Unrelated: I find it somewhat hilarious that you're not a real Winchester unless you've been to Hell. John, Dean, Sam, Adam...

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'Unrelated: I find it somewhat hilarious that you're not a real Winchester unless you've been to Hell. John, Dean, Sam, Adam...'
Does that make Castiel (I gripped you tight and raised you from Hell Perdition) an honorary Winchester? He certainly has come back from the dead enough times to qualify as one.

[silverusagi]

He could definitely be an honorary Winchester for that! He could also be one by moving in with Dean

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

He could also be one by moving in with Dean
True, true. It would be like the Odd Couple.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Exactly. So it has to be solitary confinement otherwise that entire dealio with Lucifer was just retconned in order to create some ~conflict~ between Sam and Dean which, enough already with that show. Dead horse, you're beating it too much.

What's interesting is how sometimes he seems like Sam but other times he just isn't. Unless this is another one of those things like how Meg possessed Sam and is acting like him kind of deals, and Sam is locked away somewhere or his soul is elsewhere or something along those lines. The thing with this is that there needs to be something explained, at least if not entirely than hinted at soon because I'm getting tired of all this "Sam is wrong" schtick they've already done time and again.

I find it somewhat hilarious that you're not a real Winchester unless you've been to Hell. John, Dean, Sam, Adam...

There needed to be a similar connection to them all. Of course Adam gets the short end of the stick, nobody seems to remember him....

[silverusagi]

Heh. This show would beat the dead horse, and then kill it's ghost.

There does need to be something explained. Let's hope the episode I'm watching now does it!


What's interesting is how sometimes he seems like Sam but other times he just isn't.

Yeah this. He's on and off.