Just some food for thought.
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rogueslayer452I've been wondering something about Sam and demon blood: Why couldn't they just have him inject himself instead of drinking the stuff? Granted, that could have gone for too much literal of the drug addiction and abuse and they probably wanted to go more for the vampire-esque, gross and disturbing factor with what Sam was doing to himself and also with large quantities instead of just a little here and there, but they could have been it be like a blood transfusion or something. Because when you think about drinking blood, especially large gallons of it like what he was supposed to have done in the S5 finale...it's kind of hard to stomach that someone, even Sam when it was first proposed to him, would even consider doing that.
Also, they keep saying that it's demon's blood. But demons don't have blood, demons on Supernatural are more or less smokey entities that need a physical body to possess. So realistically speaking, it's not really their blood unless their entire being inherits everything inside of that body and their essences leaks into the bloodstream, otherwise the blood Sam is drinking? Is actually human blood, which makes me think about the poor people who are cut and sliced simply for the benefit of Sam's blood addiction.
Another thing, I've been thinking about Sam and his powers and what the demon blood contributes to it. Now yes, it's meant for him to be revved up Hulk-style, but wasn't it Ruby that told him he didn't need the demon blood anyway with that Dumbo speech? That he had the powers inside of him all along, he just needed to believe that the blood could help him? Of course, we can argue that when the YED was alive Sam's powers were activated through that and when he died he no longer how those abilities and it's demon blood that fueled it. But on the show they make a huge deal about Sam being an abomination and how he's been tainted with demon blood running through his veins and whatnot, even when he was supposedly cleansed of it in the S5 premiere. This has never been fully explained on whether or not Sam is truly tainted or that is just a belief because Azazel chose him and that was his destiny to be Lucifer's vessel and all of that. It's never been clear, and I'm wondering if it's an inconsistency with the writing, mainly because had Sam been an abomination he wouldn't have ended up in Heaven in "Dark Side Of The Moon", so I don't know.
Perhaps this was explained before elsewhere, but it's been bothering me for some time now.
In other news that is not unrelated, I've also been curious about the inconsistencies the show has had especially with unfinished or abandoned storylines and arcs, and the more I looked back the more I realized they never really explained many things they put out there, mostly with things that aren't directly connected with the Winchesters. And that's one example of their major flaws in terms of the writing, never mind the mess the fifth season turned out to be. I think once you step back and realize oh wait, this never happened or this was never explained, or hey they didn't follow through with that piece of the storyline, is when you notice those little things that should have been handled better with the story. And I'm the kind of person that likes stories to feel complete, to not have holes or for there to be continuity errors, or for things to happen unrealistically to a character and what they've been going through. When this happens in a show that I watch, I will nitpick at it and it will make me question and/or not like the writers or the direction of the show in general. Does this make me less of a fan? Of course not. These are legitimate concerns to have and everyone should voice their likes and dislikes about something they love, otherwise how else will people in the higher ups listen and see what the people are responding to?
Apparently it seems I have way too many thoughts today, it's been bubbling up in my head and I needed a little release otherwise I would go insane with it. Heh.
Also, they keep saying that it's demon's blood. But demons don't have blood, demons on Supernatural are more or less smokey entities that need a physical body to possess. So realistically speaking, it's not really their blood unless their entire being inherits everything inside of that body and their essences leaks into the bloodstream, otherwise the blood Sam is drinking? Is actually human blood, which makes me think about the poor people who are cut and sliced simply for the benefit of Sam's blood addiction.
Another thing, I've been thinking about Sam and his powers and what the demon blood contributes to it. Now yes, it's meant for him to be revved up Hulk-style, but wasn't it Ruby that told him he didn't need the demon blood anyway with that Dumbo speech? That he had the powers inside of him all along, he just needed to believe that the blood could help him? Of course, we can argue that when the YED was alive Sam's powers were activated through that and when he died he no longer how those abilities and it's demon blood that fueled it. But on the show they make a huge deal about Sam being an abomination and how he's been tainted with demon blood running through his veins and whatnot, even when he was supposedly cleansed of it in the S5 premiere. This has never been fully explained on whether or not Sam is truly tainted or that is just a belief because Azazel chose him and that was his destiny to be Lucifer's vessel and all of that. It's never been clear, and I'm wondering if it's an inconsistency with the writing, mainly because had Sam been an abomination he wouldn't have ended up in Heaven in "Dark Side Of The Moon", so I don't know.
Perhaps this was explained before elsewhere, but it's been bothering me for some time now.
In other news that is not unrelated, I've also been curious about the inconsistencies the show has had especially with unfinished or abandoned storylines and arcs, and the more I looked back the more I realized they never really explained many things they put out there, mostly with things that aren't directly connected with the Winchesters. And that's one example of their major flaws in terms of the writing, never mind the mess the fifth season turned out to be. I think once you step back and realize oh wait, this never happened or this was never explained, or hey they didn't follow through with that piece of the storyline, is when you notice those little things that should have been handled better with the story. And I'm the kind of person that likes stories to feel complete, to not have holes or for there to be continuity errors, or for things to happen unrealistically to a character and what they've been going through. When this happens in a show that I watch, I will nitpick at it and it will make me question and/or not like the writers or the direction of the show in general. Does this make me less of a fan? Of course not. These are legitimate concerns to have and everyone should voice their likes and dislikes about something they love, otherwise how else will people in the higher ups listen and see what the people are responding to?
Apparently it seems I have way too many thoughts today, it's been bubbling up in my head and I needed a little release otherwise I would go insane with it. Heh.
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Date: 2010-07-08 03:31 pm (UTC)You'd be surprised. In the Torchwood fandom if you don't think Russell T Davis is a genius and therefore can't be criticized you're really not a true fan. And people wonder why I'm not really in that fandom anymore.
I try not the think about the demon blood thing because that was just one giant plot hole.
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Date: 2010-07-08 06:59 pm (UTC)The more I do think about what they've done with the show, the more I notice the handfuls of plot holes they had.
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Date: 2010-07-08 07:52 pm (UTC)Tell me about it. I once ran into someone who actually said that Russell T Davies wasn't supposed to be criticized because he's a professional writer. I wasn't really sure how to respond to that.
'That's ridiculous, and yet with some of the collective minds of fans they believe in that wholeheartedly, it's kind of frightening that even though I love being part of fandom, it makes me repelled by it at the same time.'
I think that's one of the reasons I tend to stay on the fringes of most fandoms, well that and the fact I can't stand shipper wars.
'The more I do think about what they've done with the show, the more I notice the handfuls of plot holes they had.'
Yeah. That's always made me think that Kripke might have had a vague five-year plan, but nothing set in stone. Apparently angles wouldn't have even shown up if not the writer's strike and In the Beginning was originally going to focus on John, and Mary wasn't even going to be a hunter.
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Date: 2010-07-08 08:12 pm (UTC)Right, because professional writers can't be criticized at all. *rolls eyes*
Oh, I dislike shipping wars too. I never understood it other than trying to convince the other person that one persons pairing is better than theirs or convert them, which we know will never happen. Sometimes that wank that comes from it can be entertaining, but I don't participate because I'm like, like what you like and I like what I like. Everyone is happy.
Yeah. That's always made me think that Kripke might have had a vague five-year plan, but nothing set in stone. Apparently angles wouldn't have even shown up if not the writer's strike and In the Beginning was originally going to focus on John, and Mary wasn't even going to be a hunter.
I liked that the WGA strike prompted many creators to rethink or reorganize their thoughts about how they were going to further their shows because of the temporary halt. I certainly think the main reason why S4 gained so much ratings was because of that different direction of adding in the angels and had they not done that it would had stayed the same-old stuff. Which, as what we've said before, if that happened I probably would have gradually drifted from the show. And it seems like that was good for the story and plot, but since then there wasn't anything else they planned ahead or managed how it should work out.
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Date: 2010-07-09 10:36 pm (UTC)Someone really should tell that to all those people that review movies, books and tv shows for a living.
'Sometimes that wank that comes from it can be entertaining, but I don't participate because I'm like, like what you like and I like what I like. Everyone is happy.'
Pretty much. Although I have to wonder why people spend so much time concentrating on ships they hate when they could be concentrating on ships they like. It's not as if their paring will become canon or anything if they actually win the ship war.
'And it seems like that was good for the story and plot, but since then there wasn't anything else they planned ahead or managed how it should work out.'
It looks that way.