Just something I've been pondering
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rogueslayer452I've been wondering about Castiel and his powers. It seems the general consensus of fandom thinks that Castiel has been losing his powers bit by bit since he returned, I've seen this being referenced a lot in fics and also in fandom discussions. However, are Castiel's powers really dwindling away?
He said in the beginning of the season that he's been cut off from Heaven so there are certain things he doesn't have full capability of doing such as healing and time travel. This doesn't necessarily mean his powers are slowly draining away from him episode by episode. If that were true, he would have been completely weakened by now. Instead, in the last episode Castiel seemed to possess a bit more power than we've seen from him in previous episodes, and perhaps even more badass than when he did have full capability of his powers from last season. So in my view from this, Castiel is only limited to certain abilities rather than losing them, as he's already stated in 5.02, since I'm sure to him this does feel like he's been weakened or made helpless because of being cut off from his home, but certainly not weak as in feeling his Grace drained from him. As for the 2014 future!Castiel, it's my belief that when the angels had left and Lucifer took power that is when he became completely powerless and "no longer an angel" (at least somewhat, he's still an angel just trapped inside a human vessel). Not before, not along the way, but in the moment when Lucifer had taken control did that occur. And even though we're now seeing Castiel subtly become humanized by his mannerisms with each passing episode, he still has BAMF skills and his some of his powers intact.
Overall, from what I've observed, I think with the knowledge of him having limited access to certain abilities people are confusing that with him losing more of his powers, especially since we've seen over the course of this season just to what extent does this limit him to.
Now I don't know if there's been any kind of articles or interviews explaining whether he is or isn't gradually losing his angel powers, since I don't read anything that could have potential spoilers in them so I don't know if this has already been discussed or confirmed or whatever. These are just my thoughts and opinions on the matter.
This is just me, having thinky-thoughts at like, early in the morning. And it has to do with Castiel, go figure. Heh.
He said in the beginning of the season that he's been cut off from Heaven so there are certain things he doesn't have full capability of doing such as healing and time travel. This doesn't necessarily mean his powers are slowly draining away from him episode by episode. If that were true, he would have been completely weakened by now. Instead, in the last episode Castiel seemed to possess a bit more power than we've seen from him in previous episodes, and perhaps even more badass than when he did have full capability of his powers from last season. So in my view from this, Castiel is only limited to certain abilities rather than losing them, as he's already stated in 5.02, since I'm sure to him this does feel like he's been weakened or made helpless because of being cut off from his home, but certainly not weak as in feeling his Grace drained from him. As for the 2014 future!Castiel, it's my belief that when the angels had left and Lucifer took power that is when he became completely powerless and "no longer an angel" (at least somewhat, he's still an angel just trapped inside a human vessel). Not before, not along the way, but in the moment when Lucifer had taken control did that occur. And even though we're now seeing Castiel subtly become humanized by his mannerisms with each passing episode, he still has BAMF skills and his some of his powers intact.
Overall, from what I've observed, I think with the knowledge of him having limited access to certain abilities people are confusing that with him losing more of his powers, especially since we've seen over the course of this season just to what extent does this limit him to.
Now I don't know if there's been any kind of articles or interviews explaining whether he is or isn't gradually losing his angel powers, since I don't read anything that could have potential spoilers in them so I don't know if this has already been discussed or confirmed or whatever. These are just my thoughts and opinions on the matter.
This is just me, having thinky-thoughts at like, early in the morning. And it has to do with Castiel, go figure. Heh.
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Date: 2010-04-20 10:11 pm (UTC)And that's another interesting point, Castiel explains that even with Heaven's assistance time travel is still very difficult, but as you said it didn't seem to faze him in 4.03. From what we've been told time travel, while it can be done, is extremely difficult to arrange and for those who aren't given permission by Heaven's forces can be very weakening to said angels who attempt to do it themselves. Which explains how come Anna seemed to have been weakened when she did so, but only temporarily whereas with Castiel is seemed very effected by the travel, especially by carrying passengers along with him, which he did mention would be even more difficult than before. So yeah, I think even without having been cut off time travel wouldn't have been an easy task for him either because of that.
so unless the angels leave again, I can see him staying pretty much right where he is.
Yeah, pretty much. He's just kinda been the same since he returned in the premiere, it's just we've only begun to understand those certain limitations he mentioned.
And since we're on the topic, re: healing... Could he heal in the first place? In OTHOAP, he tells Sam he cannot heal Dean. Maybe it was just his orders not to?
Hmm, you know that is an interesting question. I honestly don't know. I mean, I figured all angels had the ability to heal others, and I presumed that Castiel couldn't fix Dean because he either was ordered not to and we know that Castiel was still obeying orders then, if just questioning where those orders came from. But now that I think about it, I'm not entirely certain the answer to that. That can also be something worth pondering or speculating about.
It's so funny, this show offers a lot of interesting meta-worthy material but sometimes they don't offer straight answers, or even any answers at all. Thus, leaving us hanging. Heh.