End of the Year Fandom Meme

[rogueslayer452]

It is that time of year again, and quite frankly this is a good chance for me to just talk about my fandoms over the course of the year. And trust me, there is a lot.


Which TV shows did you start watching in 2022?
Guardian, Detective L, The Story of Minglan, Granting You A Dreamlike Life, The Legend of Yunqian, The Legend of Yunze, Medical Examiner Dr. Qin (2016), Dr. Qin: Medical Examiner (2018), Medical Examiner Dr. Qin: Silent Evidence (2021), Medical Examiner Dr. Qin: The Mind Reader (2022), Fighting For Love, Love Between Fairy And Devil, S.C.I., Farewell My Villain, Her Royal Highness, Lord Uncle Let's Get Married, I Am The Years You Are The Stars

Which TV shows did you let go of in 2022?
None.

Which TV shows did you mean to get into but didn't in 2022? Why?
Love Like The Galaxy, I've seen some moments from it but haven't watched it all the way through. I've also been curious about The Lost Tomb series, mainly The Lost Tomb Reboot because it has Zhu Yilong. Oh, and Miss S, which is a Chinese adaptation of Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries, that has been something I've been wanting to see since hearing about it. I've seen the gifs and a little behind-the-scene stuff, and apparently it's available on HBO Max.

Additionally, KinnPorsche, mainly because I haven't had the time with everything else that I was watching and it's just a matter of the availability. But I have been following everything about it ever since the trailer announcement up to when the show aired and lived vicariously through others liveblogging about it, and now am just enjoying the fanmade content from it and loving certain characters and pairings through that osmosis. I will get around to watching it eventually, of course.

For non-Asian shows, I kind of got sidetracked that I completely forgot about Andor. I've also been kind of sitting on Wednesday because while I'm only interested in it for Jenna Ortega, I am not a fan of Tim Burton.

Which TV shows do you intend on checking out in 2023?
The Last Of Us is kind of my biggest anticipation for next year, and it's right around the corner! That is the only new show that I can think of at the moment that I'm really excited about.

Which TV show impressed you least in 2022?
S.C.I., which is unfortunately disappointing since I like the majority of it aside from one aspect, one particular character that I absolutely cannot stand who, despite not always being present, is still among the main cast and shares a lot of scenes with a character who I adore and I really wish that they didn't. So yeah, the show itself is fine it's just that which bothered me the most.

Medical Examiner Dr. Qin: Silent Evidence sadly disappointed me the moment I watched the first episode, and I kind of stopped watching after that. Tonally, it just didn't grab me, and while I don't mind them genderbending the character of Lin Tao, knowing his personality from the other versions this one didn't even bother matching at all. Of course, cdramas have this habit of where the first episode or two aren't always an indicator of how the rest of the drama is going to be, sometimes it is awkwardly paced or you literally have no idea what is going on, so perhaps one day I might go back and see how the rest of the episodes are in comparison, but so far yeah, that one just wasn't doing it for me especially in comparison to the others.

Also, in hindsight, I'd have to say Euphoria, because compared to the first season the second season was rather uneven and much was left to be desired by certain storylines and arcs that most likely will remain unfinished even as the show continues.

Which TV show do you think you might let go of in 2023 unless things significantly improve?
Probably Euphoria. The show had such a strong start when it debuted in 2019, but something happened and whether this was because of the pandemic and the pressures, it kind of lost its way. I mean, aside from Rue's storyline, every other character felt like an afterthought. I want it to improve, both story-wise and things behind-the-scenes (i.e. a better non-toxic work environment and for there to be more collaboration with the writing and not just have it be a one man show in that department), but if it doesn't or I'm not feeling where things are headed I'll most likely let it go.

Which TV shows do you think you’ll never let go of no matter how crappy they get?
I feel like this is the same answer as the previous year, but such things as Critical Role and Dimension 20/Dropout or anything else along those lines because, unless something really egregious happens that makes me stop watching them entirely those have a plethora of content on their channels that even if I'm not feeling one particular series I'll just go watch something else they have.

Your main fandom of the year?
Guardian! (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧

Your favorite film you watched this year?
Prey, Scream 5, Suspiria (2018), and Circle (2015).

Your favorite book read this year?
I regret that I didn't read as much as I should have, however I have started The Husky And His White Cat Shizun (the first volume that was officially released) and so far I'm really enjoying it. It makes me want to actually find whatever links are still available to the fan translations so I don't have to wait months in between for however many volumes it'll be.

Your favorite album or song to listen to this year?
I recently gushed over Dreamcatcher previously, so there's that.

I also want to give a shoutout to the Love Between Fairy And Devil soundtrack because those had some beautiful and banger tracks.

Your favorite TV show(s) of the year?
Guardian, Detective L, and Love Between Fairy And Devil. I will also add in Dr. Qin: Medical Examiner (2018) as well, because I really, really enjoyed that one out of all of the other Dr. Qin dramas.

Your favorite online fandom community of the year?
I don't think there was one singular community, to be honest. I think having been around various places I think the cdrama/cnovel communities, at least the places that I linger in, have been, for the most part, pretty awesome. I've been introduced to some amazing dramas through the people and those communities that I follow.

Your fandom that made an unexpected comeback this year?
Although they already had their own channel for some time now, Shane Madej and Ryan Bergara came back with Ghost Files, it's pretty much the same as Buzzfeed Unsolved but it's just theirs now, the same kind of content just new and improved, and it made me so happy. Gotta love those Ghoul Boys. Additionally, Puppet History made its return on their channel as well, which I wasn't shocked just pleasantly surprised, especially with how extensive the lore ended up becoming.

Your biggest fandom disappointment of the year?
Joss Whedon further digging himself in that hole earlier this year with that atrocious interview where he pretty much proves what everyone else has been saying for a long time now. Not surprised, just severely disappointed. Even more so now that Sarah Michelle Gellar herself has recently broken her silence confirming the toxic work environment on the BTVS set. It's sad and unfortunate, but it really aligns a lot of the complaints against Joss and how they're not unfounded, and it's not just disappointing but also infuriating at how he just tries to justify his actions and behaviors towards others.

Guardian being pulled from YouTube/Viki was definitely a downer, for sure. Thankfully, I was able to watch the majority of it before that happened, and it's apparently happened before with the drama so the fandom was in a state of, "ugh, this again", but it really just reaffirms the whole "censorship sucks" thing, which is another disappointment in itself because of the upcoming dramas I've been waiting to premiere are on indefinite hold, stuck in that censorship limbo until further notice.

Your fandom boyfriend(s) of the year?
Shen Wei (Guardian), Ye Zun (Guardian), Huo Wensi (Detective L), Ben Jieming (Detective L), Dongfang Qingcang (Love Between Fairy And Devil), Lin Tao (Dr Qin: Medical Examiner 2018), Qin Ming (Dr. Qin: Medical Examiner 2018), Luo Fusheng (Granting You A Dreamlike Life)

Your fandom girlfriend(s) of the year?
Fearne Calloway (Critical Role), Opal (Critical Role: Exandria Unlimited)

Your biggest squee moment of the year?
The discovery of Guardian, leading to the discovery of everything that is Zhu Yilong. ❤

Speaking of, the announcement that some of Priest novels are getting official English translations, including Guardian and Sha Po Lang. Not only that, but I now have volume one of The Husky and His White Cat Shizun, something that I had been excited about since it was announced that there would be official translations of that.

Dreamcatcher, not only discovering them but also getting to witness them having their first (and the second!) win since they debuted in 2017. Knowing their background and story of how they were initially formed to being kind of the underdog within the kpop industry because they are more rock/metal influenced which isn't standard for mainstream kpop, it's kind of a Big Deal that they finally got their win after so long.

The most missed of your old fandoms?
There's the same answer I give every year, is that I wish that general fandom had a more active community a la the heydays of LJ, although I think after permanently transferring from LJ to DW this year it has gotten slightly better somewhat, particularly when it comes to the cdrama/cnovel side of fandom which I'm very grateful to see since I only see that kind of activity and enthusiasm on Tumblr.

One thing that I miss is fanworks for older fandoms. I know that social media has made people believe that you only need to be discussing current fandoms, but even if a show has ended years ago you can still talk about it and show your fannish interest in via fanart/gifs/fanfic/etc. Oddly, I've seen some really older shows end up making a resurgence among certain online circles (ex: Columbo and M*A*S*H being some of the most unexpected ones where everyone is talking about, or at least they become memes being passed around), so while it's not impossible it's still kind of sad that even things that were popular or even well-liked by vast majority of fandom back in the day are kind of void now in most places. Granted, some of them were in genre or niche parts of fandom or were cancelled after one season, but still, even the lesser mainstream shows had dedicated fans that would continuously talk about it even long after it had ended. I just want the current culture of fandom to know that it's okay to make content for a older fandom that you just discovered, because trust me, there are people who will remember those things and will engage. We're parched for new fanworks of old beloved fandoms, and just want to squee with others about it again.

The fandom you haven't tried yet, but want to?
Aside from the shows that I wanted to get into this year but didn't, I've been quite curious about Alice In Borderland since I see quite a bit of that recently, because the second season just came out and I want to give that a go. The stuff I've seen from it makes it look so interesting.

Your biggest fan anticipations for the coming year?
The HBO adaptation of The Last Of Us, the second season of The Legend of Vox Machina, and the third season of The Mandalorian. I'm also anticipating continuing down the long list of Asian dramas that I want to check out, and I'm pretty excited about the official English translations for some danmei novels, both continuing of the volumes from the novels already happening and the newer announcements, particularly from Priest.


Additionally, I want to add that I think my favorite overall fandom phenomenon this year has been the whole Goncharov, a meme created and shared exclusively on Tumblr that ended up becoming an elaborate "Yes, And" creative writing exercise that somehow (yet inevitably) ended up breaking containment and was ended up reported and commented on by various non-Tumblr/non-fandom people. It was hilarious, it was beautiful, and the fact that a fandom ended up surrounding this fake movie that never existed is the kind of collective fandom experience that I absolutely love. We all just kind of accept that this is a thing and it's glorious. 2022 was an interesting year for fandom, at least on Tumblr, but Goncharov was kind of the icing on the cake.

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Otherwise, I hope everyone had a lovely holiday season. My Christmas was spent rather somberly, for obvious reasons that have already been stated, but overall it was alright.

While I don't make any kind of new years resolutions, I think my goal for 2023 is to become more active. I wanted to do that initially once I transferred to DW permanently, and for a little while there I was and I was having certain things revved up and ready to go, but then life happened and, well, I did get a little quiet towards the end of the year here because of that. So if nothing else I want to at least be more productive, because believe me, I have things to talk about regarding the shows/media I've been consuming lately.

Comments

[verdande_mi]

Since you mentioned The Last Of Us on my journal not too long ago, I looked into it and seeing Anna Torv is part of the cast makes me want to watch, but at the same time it also looks very dark and bleak. Perhaps too much for me.

I wish you and yours all the best for the new year <3 <3

[rogueslayer452]

Oh yeah, it's quite an emotionally harrowing story. I mean, it's beautiful narratively and with the characters and all, but just like with the game it might not be for everyone because of how emotionally brutal it'll be, for sure.

Wishing you the best, as well. :)

[author_by_night]

I'm glad your Christmas was alright. *Hugs*


Joss Whedon further digging himself in that hole earlier this year with that atrocious interview where he pretty much proves what everyone else has been saying for a long time now.

Yeah... he really did himself no favors there. It's such a shame that for a show I loved, the showrrunner and set were so toxic. And so ironic that on a show about female empowerment, there'd be so much misogyny and pitting women against each other. Yet TBH, looking back Buffy was very much "rah rah rah grrl power" feminism, with many attempts at delving into the deeper stuff still falling flat. Given what we now know, it makes perfect sense that it often failed to hit the landing.

It was hilarious, it was beautiful, and the fact that a fandom ended up surrounding this fake movie that never existed is the kind of collective fandom experience that I absolutely love. We all just kind of accept that this is a thing and it's glorious. 2022 was an interesting year for fandom, at least on Tumblr, but Goncharov kind of the icing on the cake.

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Right?! And that's what I've been trying to explain for ages about why I miss old school LJ. It was fun. No one took themselves too seriously. While tumblr has a multitude of issues long established, I do really appreciate that about it.

[rogueslayer452]

*hugs back* Thank you.

I still love and enjoy BTVS for what it is, because obviously it holds a special place in my heart for many reasons, but as I've gotten older the more things that I realize how certain things were portrayed that, even for the time, just didn't seem right. Like, sure, some things were very much late 90s era, but then you have other aspects where they attempted something but it just didn't follow through in the way they intended it to, or decisions that made no sense. But when you look at how Joss is, it all does kind of click into place some of those choices in the show.

Right?! And that's what I've been trying to explain for ages about why I miss old school LJ. It was fun. No one took themselves too seriously. While tumblr has a multitude of issues long established, I do really appreciate that about it.

Exactly! That's what I really like about it because it reintroduced the concept that not everything has to be "serious business" in fandom spaces, things can be done like this simply for fun, just because. There doesn't need to be an ulterior motive for it other than that. People saw this meme and just ran with it and it created something so unique within the general fandom community. It's so great, I love it so much.

[author_by_night]

but as I've gotten older the more things that I realize how certain things were portrayed that, even for the time, just didn't seem right. Like, sure, some things were very much late 90s era, but then you have other aspects where they attempted something but it just didn't follow through in the way they intended it to, or decisions that made no sense. . But when you look at how Joss is, it all does kind of click into place some of those choices in the show.


Absolutely. Like the hyena episode. It seems to want to call out boys will be boys (since Giles initially blames Xander's behavior on just being a fifteen year old boy, and Buffy is like "...Giles, no"), but Xander also faces no consequences for his behavior. It's portrayed as mostly humiliating for Xander. In another episode, Xander is in Buffy's room while she's changing, and he doesn't look away when she asks him to. This is meant to be funny. Even in the nineties, if one of my friends had done that to me (regardless of gender) I would've been upset. Also, those things DO set a "boys will be boys" precedent. It didn't age well and is generally telling. :/

I still love Buffy too, of course. Just not those aspects of it.


here doesn't need to be an ulterior motive for it other than that. People saw this meme and just ran with it and it created something so unique within the general fandom community. It's so great, I love it so much.

Yes. :)

[rogueslayer452]

Yeah, it's quite obvious that Xander was the Joss self-insert, since his character never really grows up and never faces the consequences of his actions, and often justifies his behavior through humor as if it's supposed to be funny when it just makes it worse. Hmm, sounds familiar, eh?

But seriously, as much as I love and adore the show and always will, there are certain things worth criticizing and examining more closely. Of course, it's not like the BTVS fandom hasn't been doing that for years. There's been loads of discussions questioning certain creative choices made throughout the whole series, even putting into question Joss Whedon's supposedly self-proclaimed feminist title long before everything that's been recently revealed. So, this just adds more layers to it.

[profiterole_reads]

Moving from LJ to DW was definitely a huge improvement, not only for specific fandoms like c-dramas, which have a big following on DW, but also in terms of generic atmosphere (towards the end, friending memes on LJ were filled with anti-fandom comments, it was so depressing to go through these to try and find new friends).

[rogueslayer452]

towards the end, friending memes on LJ were filled with anti-fandom comments, it was so depressing to go through these to try and find new friends

Yeah, that depressed me, too. I mean, you also get those kinds of comments on friending memes here too, sometimes, although those are people who will say that they're not in fandom or don't do fandom anymore and even some who say this aren't adverse to having friends who do post about fandom, which is a nice way of saying, "it's not my thing but you do you". LJ in recent years became not so fandom-friendly, like the hostile attitudes some had there were so discouraging from ever participating in those friending memes. :(

So finally transferring to DW from LJ was a relief, to be honest. I prefer this atmosphere than over there, for sure.

[haebin]

The Last Of Us is kind of my biggest anticipation for next year
Same here! I never played the game but the whole plot sounds so interesting.

I started to watch "Alice in Borderlands" yesterday and it isn't bad. :)

Nice to read that you had a nice Christmas. ^____^

[rogueslayer452]

It really is. I'm obviously biased in that sense because I adore the story, I found it to be quite beautiful and cathartic in many ways, of course it's quite violent and emotionally harrowing, and it most likely isn't going to be for everyone because of that (same with the games, you can appreciate the story without having to play them), but trust me when I say that the journey is absolutely worth it.

It's good to know that you're liking what you're seeing of Alice In Borderland so far.

[wearing_tearing]

I'm only interested in it for Jenna Ortega, I am not a fan of Tim Burton.
Jenna is great in it! And I would say this show lacks the usual Tim Burtoness associated with Tom Burton.

I had also forgotten about Andor and then ended up watching it over Christmas weekend. It started out as a pretty unassuming series and it grew into something else entirely and was an incredible watch.

And The Last of Us! I'm seeing so many people looking forward to the adaptation and I hope it lives up to everyone's expectations :D

[rogueslayer452]

I've been hearing a lot of conflicting thoughts and opinions on it. I'm not going to judge without having watched it myself, of course. We'll just have to see once I eventually get around to it.

I'll also eventually end up watching Andor. I've heard great things about it, and some of what I've seen has me intrigued. Just from the visuals alone (from the gifsets and the like) it's like they really combined what made Rogue One so good and amplified it.

And yeah, I'm hoping it does, too. :)

[autumndaze]

Sounds like you had a lot of great stuff this year! That's awesome!

[rogueslayer452]

I'm always surprised whenever I end up writing it all out because oftentimes it doesn't seem like I've consumed a lot of media, and yet. ;)

[corvidology]

I loved Wednesday *despite* not liking Tim Burton.

I would totally recommend Miss S to you, particularly if you enjoyed the Miss Fisher Murder Mysteries as it's based on the same novels.

I have to admit that I'm dead curious about your comment on S.C.I.

[rogueslayer452]

That's something to keep in mind, since I'm not going to judge a show purely because its creator before actually seeing it proper. So, we'll see.

Oh, I adored Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries, so I know that I'm in for a treat. :)

I have to admit that I'm dead curious about your comment on S.C.I.

It was the sister, who I tried to warm up to, I really did, but something about the way they handled the character just continued to bother me. I really enjoyed the drama otherwise and liked the other characters just fine, but I found myself just skipping any scene she was in.

[corvidology]

I totally agree about the sister. I think in the promo of S.C.I. I made at c_ent I described that relationship as a train wreck!

[pianogurl330]

Glad your Christmas was alright *HUGS*

I forgot about Andor too and need to circle back to that one. I'm with you about Wednesday, I love Jenna Ortega but Tim Burton not so much.

So disgusted with Whedon too!

One thing that I miss is fanworks for older fandoms I agree with this!

Happy New Year!

[rogueslayer452]

*hugs back*

Happy New Year to you, as well.

[sunshine304]

You've watched os many shows! I just don't find the time, especially since many dramas are so long. Like you, I have "watched" KinnPorsche through tumblr for now. XD That truly was an experience, ohhh boy. XD
I've also been interested in the whole The Lost Tomb series but might just start with The Mystic Nine because it's got Zhu Zanjin and his big big puppy eyes. *g*

I was generally interested in Euphoria because I like Zendaya, but what I've heard about that work environment has really put me off. And if that showis going downhill story-wise anyway, there's not that much use getting into it I guess.

Are there still links to the 2ha translation? I know that the main one I had doesn't work anymore (*cough*imighthavesomethingbecausereasons*cough*).

I also wish that fandom on DW would become bigger again - perhaps, since there definitely has been an increase in activity here, it might start to feel a bit more like in the past.

I am also interested in Alice in Borderland but won't watch because I know it'll be too violent/gory for me. :/

The Goncharov thing was really entertaining!

[rogueslayer452]

Sometimes I'm amazed that I actually made it through all those shows too, because it truly doesn't feel like it but once it's all written out like that it just catches me completely by surprised that I actually did watch that much! lol But I think I purposefully kind of choose certain dramas that have a reasonable size number of episodes. There are some still on my list that have, like, 70-80 episodes that I'm saving for a time when I'm mentally prepared for that kind of commitment.

Love your KinnPorsche icon btw, that concept trailer was what got me interested in the potential of the drama and was so happy that it actually got made! So watching all of that unfold was such a treat.

I was generally interested in Euphoria because I like Zendaya, but what I've heard about that work environment has really put me off. And if that showis going downhill story-wise anyway, there's not that much use getting into it I guess.

I'd still say the first season is worth a try at least, because that's the strongest season so far. It's gorgeously shot and the performances are top-notch. While technically it's not a "stand-alone" kind of a season since it ends slightly open-ended, it still is pretty damn good, imho.

Are there still links to the 2ha translation? I know that the main one I had doesn't work anymore

Honestly? I don't know. But I wouldn't be surprised if you find someone who can share links to where they have it downloaded in, say, a private server or something like that, because that's how fandom keeps things alive like that. You just have to know where to look and who to ask, etc.

I also wish that fandom on DW would become bigger again - perhaps, since there definitely has been an increase in activity here, it might start to feel a bit more like in the past.

Yeah, every time I see someone on Tumblr miss the LJ days (or just the old days of online journaling/forums in general) I just get the urge to wave my hands and go, "we're here on DW!". Because man, do I miss that kind of level of interaction with the fandom community. So seeing more people active on here makes me rather encouraged, really. :)

[sunshine304]

But I think I purposefully kind of choose certain dramas that have a reasonable size number of episodes.
Yes, often dramas are anything between 30 and 50 episodes of roughly 50 min, which is quite the time investment… I guess that’s why I just don’t get anywhere atm, most of the shows I’m interested in are quite long. I’ll likely get to KinnPorsche or some other shorter thai dramas first because – they’re short. XD
 
Love your KinnPorsche icon btw
Thank you! It was quite the inspiring trailer, and then there was nothing for so long… I wasn’t invested but I also was very happy for the fans when the show actually happened (and then was quite good, too!). and now I have "watched" through gifs. XD

You just have to know where to look and who to ask, etc.
Yeah that’s true. I don‘t need it personally, I saved what I could while it was still online, but I’ve had that happen with the CQL raws. The links vanished/didn’t work anymore, but it wasn’t very hard to find new ones on twitter. XD I think finding the fan TL would be a bit more work as I don’t think they’ll be openly advertised like that.
I’d wanted to check whether the people translating 2ha officially are the ones who did the fan TL as well – I seem to remember that the fan TL was quite thorough and had lots of notes at the time. If someone else has to do it from scratch… whelp. Have fun, I guess. XD

So seeing more people active on here makes me rather encouraged, really. :)
It feels like more people are becoming aware of Dreamwidth (I guess because it got mentioned more often on twitter XD) and either revive old accounts or want to give it a go (again). I’m definitely enjoying this little revival so far, even though I had forgotten that it’s quite time consuming. XD

[megan_moonlight]

I don't have the energy to make long reports like this anymore, I'm always impressed when people post them.

I haven't made a post about it yet, but I finished watching Guardian! Thank you so much for recommending it, now I'm obsessed. Oh, Shen Wei...

I want to wish you Happy New Year, and may it be better than the old one 💖

[rogueslayer452]

Oh, yay! That's fantastic! I'm glad that you enjoyed Guardian! :D I'm still quite obsessed with it. And yes, ah Shen Wei, my beloved.... *squishes him*

Thank you, and Happy New Year to you, as well. ❤

[cruel_summer]

Stealing these year-end memes!

*hugs*

[rogueslayer452]

*hugs back*

And steal away! ;D

[elizalavelle]

Have you watched For All Mankind? I just gave the first season a watch and it filled a bit of the BSG hole in my heart. Same show creator (Ronald D. Moore) but very different plot. The intensity is still there though.

Wednesday was okay, I wanted more from it but didn't dislike it in the end.

Joss confirming he sucks was not great. I'm glad the cast spoke out and am really glad SMG feels free enough to be able to talk about her experiences. I just wish Joss had learned something from all of this coming out. Instead he just doubled down and clearly doesn't get that he was the problem.

[rogueslayer452]

I have not, actually. This is the first I've been hearing of it, or if I heard about it previously it was just in passing and forgot about it. But I'll be looking into it, because since The Expanse ended, which had also filled that BSG hole in my heart, I've been yearning for another scifi equivalent.

I feel like SMG now speaking out about her own experiences and what it was like on that set really sheds more light onto the rumors that we heard back then, about how people tried to paint her as some kind of diva who felt like she was "above" BTVS or something, even Joss himself made a jab at SMG without naming her during a Firefly commentary. SMG had always been more or less a private person, so her basically confirming what Charisma and the others have been saying has been vindicating, but also disappointing to hear.

I feel like Joss doubling down is sadly on brand for him, he's been surrounded by so many "yes people" and been worshiped in fannish spaces for so long that he thought that the "Joss Is Boss" crowd would forever be his safety net, and now is realizing that nope, that's not true at all, and instead of sitting back and reflecting he's just stubbornly digging in his heels and making it worse.

[elizalavelle]

As a teenager watching Buffy I'd heard SMG was bitchy and believed it. The rest of the cast was hanging out at Joss's house and she never seemed to join and I was still a kid so I bought right into the narrative that she was the issue.

Now I like many of my coworkers but at the end of the day my time is my time. I have my own friends and life outside of work and am glad I work at a job that respects that. Sarah worked very long hours, from the sounds of it she was always professional and prepared on set and expected that from others which is not a bad thing at all. Almost every actor who has worked with her who wasn't involved in drama says she's great to work with. Bit part actors talk about how she has their back and stands up for people who can't do so without risking their jobs. Honestly she sounds like a badass and someone to look up to even now.

Joss just was salty that she never became one of his special people. She maintained a professional distance and his ego didn't like it.

Agreed on Joss doubling down. From that interview it sounded like he had done some reflecting but he had come down on it being everyone else who had a problem and him who was the victim. He's going to need to get past the victim mentality before he'll have a hope of changing at all. I'm glad a lot of the fandom at least didn't buy in and are also calling him out on bad behaviour.

I hope you enjoy For All Mankind. I cannot wait to watch more!