And the Roci flies once again....

[rogueslayer452]

The Expanse renewed by Amazon for a fourth season!

I was waiting for the official announcement once I heard there was negotiations being held a few days ago, and here it is. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

First with Brooklyn Nine-Nine and now with The Expanse, it truly seems like a rare miracle, though I do think that both these shows had certain advantages on their side which made the possibility of being saved from cancellation a bit higher than most. The Expanse had a very unique case where Syfy didn't completely own the rights to the show, Alcon Entertainment did, so once it had been cancelled the production company had faith that they could shop the show around to other places hoping someone would help pick them up because it was so critically acclaimed and successful and that Syfy's faulty business model shouldn't get in the way of it being renewed. Apparently, Amazon seemed to be the only place that was streaming the show, so it made sense to try and pitch it there. Never mind the overwhelming fan response, too, which was so passionate and powerful that there is no doubt that it also affected the final decision, as well. Hell, the cast even talked about the fan campaign in a recent radio interview where they discussed in awe of the whole experience, it's truly amazing how dedicated and determined fandom can be and how it can contribute so much to the saving grace of a show. And I also believe that Brooklyn Nine-Nine's luck mostly came from Mike Schur, since had his other shows not been highly successful on NBC already it probably would've been much harder to find a new home.

These were the two shows where their cancellations broke my heart the most during the upfronts this year, and I was advocating so hard for them to be renewed in whatever way they could. And I'm just so overwhelmed with emotion that both of these shows ended up getting saved. This rarely happens to any of my shows, so I consider it a major blessing. ❤

All of this got me thinking about, and appreciating, how things have shifted in terms of fan campaigning in the era of social media and having other alternative media platforms for shows to migrate to. It seemed not too long ago when the efforts of fan campaigns went virtually unnoticed aside from the creators of said show you wanted to save, and while not impossible it wasn't necessarily common for shows to rise from the ashes of cancellation. Nowadays it seems like the possibility is much greater than before due to the response being immediate and people taking action quicker than ever, and this gets attention. Mind you it doesn't guarantee anything, but the probability is definitely higher due to there being other methods and alternative opportunities available. It's such an interesting phenomenon, it makes you wonder about the future.

Comments

[nemophilist.livejournal.com]

Oh yay!

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I am just so happy, you don't even know! :D

[squint13.livejournal.com]

I'm so happy it was renewed after all! :D I heard the Amazon talk, but now it's properly official and that's so nice. They deserved for their show to keep going a bit longer, it's such a good one and it just keeps getting better with each season. <3

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Yeah, some were already speculating that it would be a done deal once negotiations were happening, but I was just waiting for actual confirmation. Now that we have it, I'm just so ecstatic and relieved! The Expanse is probably one of the best science fiction shows that I've seen in the last decade or so, which says something. I want them to at least be able to finish the story they're telling, because it's just so rich and fascinating. :D

[malicat.livejournal.com]

I suppose B99 was never really in danger as NBC always had regrets about selling it to FOX and basically just waited for the cancellation and then pounced lol

I'm so happy that The Expanse was saved as well. I wasn't aware that it had such a big and dedicated fandom as I only knew a few people who watched. Obviously there are more outlets for campaigns these days now,social media and stuff,like you said,but a lot of the cancelled shows don't really have that kind of following and then there are dead for reals *sigh*
From the moments they said they were in talks with amazon,I was very optimistic because usually the word 'in talks' means that it's only a matter of time until it's official :)

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I had only just gotten until The Expanse recently so I wasn't aware of how big the fandom was, since I barely see it being talked about from other people outside of said fandom. So I was also surprised by how dedicated and determined the fandom was being, I mean, some fans actually got a plane to fly a banner over the Amazon offices which is probably the most creative and effective method to get their attention.

but a lot of the cancelled shows don't really have that kind of following and then there are dead for reals *sigh*

Yeah, that's the unfortunate downside because there are a lot of shows that hardly get that kind of recognition or attention, especially smaller shows that barely get promoted at all, and even if they have a dedicated following, if there isn't enough noise being made it won't noticed and will most likely disappear into obscurity, which is incredibly sad since we've all had shows that we've loved that were unfairly cancelled and that even fan campaigns to help save them couldn't pull through. So while I do think this gradual shift of how fan campaigning operates is a good thing, there is still that imbalance which is often very unpredictable, because again, I didn't realize how huge The Expanse fandom was since I didn't see anyone talk about it, which was different with B99 since everyone was talking about it, even from people who barely had seen the show.

[erychan86.livejournal.com]

Yay! I hope the same happens to Lucifer!!!!!

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I haven't heard much about the Lucifer situation since the cancellation announcment outside of the fact that there will be two bonus episodes airing on Monday. I know that Tom Ellis has been a huge advocate of wanting to get the show renewed and has been following the fan campaign since it started, and that talks may be happening, so we'll see.

[batmarg.livejournal.com]

I'm so excited to hear this! I've never watched any tv on amazon, but I'm definitely willing to pay a season pass for this. This was too good a show to just let go.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I was so relieved upon hearing this news. I admit to being worried, because I'm still very bitter about Syfy cancelling Dark Matter and I know the creator of that show tried so hard to find a new home but it never took, unfortunately.

At least with The Expanse, its luck of Syfy not really owning the rights to it helped it find its new home at Amazon, along with the passionate dedication of the fans. I'm hoping that this will gain more attention to the show in general, because it is absolutely wonderful scifi and it deserves more recognition.

[blakmagjick]

Trav will be happy that The Expanse renewed.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

It makes me so happy, happy and relieved. This doesn't happen very often when two of my shows end up getting saved from cancellation by other networks. :)

[haebin.livejournal.com]

It is great that The Expanse got renewed. More for me to watch on my to-watch-list! :D

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Yay! \O/ Honestly, I was a bit worried for a moment there because aside from some other places I rarely ever saw anyone talk about The Expanse, so I was pleasantly surprised to see how large and dedicated the fanbase actually was. I'm so happy it found a new home to continue. :)

[elizalavelle.livejournal.com]

I've just started Brooklyn Nine-Nine and it's so precious! I'm glad it's getting a chance to keep making the show. I need to watch The Expanse. Ughhhh I need more time in my days!!!

I love that networks have to take fans into account and that other networks are paying attention and are picking things up they think are still viable :)

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

B99 is such a treasure. It's honestly one of the few comedies out there that is able to make me genuinely laugh out loud due to its sense of humor and comedic timing, and it's also incredibly heartwarming and charming to boot.

And YES, WATCH THE EXPANSE! It is such amazing scifi, and it deserves more attention. :) And I'm so happy that Amazon was able to pick it up, thanks to the massive amounts of fan response and dedication to campaigning to help get the show noticed.

I love that networks have to take fans into account and that other networks are paying attention and are picking things up they think are still viable :)

While it doesn't always happen, mind you, because at the end of the day its just the nature of the business with numbers and rights and all of that so there's no guarantee, but I do like that it's become more frequent than how it was years ago when once a show was cancelled, that was it. Though there is an imbalance between smaller, lesser known shows that don't get enough recognition or loud vocal fans that and the larger fandoms that make a ton of noise when their show gets cancelled, which is unfair. However, the fact that times are changing, that fans have more power and with the many other options now available for networks and other places to consider saving a show from cancellation, this directional shift is quite interesting.

[elizalavelle.livejournal.com]

I guess with the business stuff at least other stations can look and see that while the ratings may not be enough for say NBC, those rating are high for their own station (or will at least ensure costs are covered) and they know there will be a boost from being in the news for saving a show. I'm sure there are cost benefit analysis people working it out and giving shows another chance.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

and they know there will be a boost from being in the news for saving a show.

Which is great publicity, hell I know that Brooklyn Nine-Nine will thrive much better on NBC since FOX barely promoted the show on their network. Sometimes it might work out that way with the attention some things get, though it's about keeping that momentum alive afterwards is the thing.

However, it would suck for the shows that have incredibly low ratings on a network that deserve the recognition and attention, but don't due to poor advertising. So when they get cancelled, even if a fandom is loud and vocal about it, most networks will overlook it because it won't even make a blip on their radar as something worthwhile saving. It's only when there's a certain amount fan campaigning that will bring that kind of attention, but again only if the fandom is willing to go above and beyond the simple signing of a petition. There's also budgetary issues, too, like, some amazing shows end up getting cancelled because they're too expensive to produce and even though they're good and other networks want to save them, they just can't due to that. It's why sometimes certain shows that are cheap to produce end up going on for 20+ seasons even though they have dismal ratings.

Sorry for rambling, but it's been on my mind lately regarding the imbalance between the shows that get saved and those that didn't.