Frak this.

[rogueslayer452]

Brooklyn Nine-Nine was cancelled.

This was announced yesterday and it created such a universal outrage from people that even famous celebrities like Mark Hamill and Lin-Manuel Miranda were twitting their displeasure of the show being cancelled, and want the show to be renewed in any possible way. And not only has there been fan petitions but it's been reported that there are multiple networks are looking to save the show from the claws of cancellation, which is amazing. In truth yes, it had five sold seasons which, on FOX, is such a rarity and a damn miracle if you can make it past one season, but the way that FOX treated the show was horrible since they barely promoted it, and the only reason it got the loyal following it does was through word of mouth by people begging others to watch the show because it was so good. I want to hope that somehow B99 gets renewed elsewhere because it deserves at least two more seasons.

I also just found out today that Syfy has cancelled The Expanse. And right in the middle of their still airing third season. Just, the fucking audacity. It's been reported that it's being shopped around for a new home which I hope it succeeds in doing so, but still. The Expanse is such a brilliant and amazing scifi show, probably one of the best scifis I've watched in recent years, and them letting it go for whatever reason? Frak that nonsense.

I understand that it's the nature of the business which is run by numbers, I'm no stranger when it comes to my shows being unjustly cancelled before their time, but I will never understand the reasoning behind cancelling shows that not only have strong loyal fanbases, but are also critically acclaimed and are extremely well-reviewed, highly rated and been praised by nearly everyone. It just makes no sense to me. Both Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Expanse are such important shows because they feature some of the best storytelling; their writing is impeccable, they both feature diversity among their main cast (and with The Expanse their entire cast is made up of varying ethnic backgrounds that aren't white), amazing character development, and just are so good in their own right and yet this shit happens. It's nothing new to lose a show to shitty network decisions, but it still hurts and enrages me all the same.

So please, sign and share these petitions in hopes to have both these amazing shows a new home.

Comments

[nemophilist.livejournal.com]

I AM SO BUMMED BY B99. SO BUMMED. I watched the season three Halloween episode during dinner and more now FURTHER BUMMED. >:(

I was just about to get into The Expanse, too. Needed more sci-fi. :'(

[violateraindrop]

I was already preparing myself for a B99 cancelation, but it still felt like someone punched me when I saw it this morning. I think that the overwhelming response online and celebrity support actually made me feel sadder. Chances for a renewal somewhere else are pretty good though. There's still hope!

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I remember hearing rumors about B99 some while ago and I didn't want it to be true, but sadly it was. Hopefully it finds a new home which, considering the amount of attention it's gotten seems like it's a possibility, but it still sucks. :(

The Expanse is such amazing scifi and I hope you do watch it regardless, though. It's so amazing. It's probably one of the best scifi shows that Syfy has had to date, which is what makes this decision super confusing. Then again, they cancelled Dark Matter last year, which was another brilliant scifi show that got a lot of good ratings and praise. And here they are pulling this shit again, ugh. :/

I do hope it also finds a new home, too. I want The Expanse to live longer and to complete its story, because even though its based off of a book series it's still amazing to watch unfold on the screen and the writing and performances are amazing. It deserves more seasons, dammit.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

First of all, amazing icon! :D

And yeah, I feel like every year we kind of mentally and emotionally prepared ourselves for B99 to be cancelled because, well, it's on FOX and anything good on FOX goes to die prematurely. The fact it got five seasons is nothing short of miraculous. But it's still devastating when the news hit. But what's remarkable is the response, which has not only been overwhelming but also incredibly heartwarming that B99 has touched so many people.

I hope that The Expanse receives the same kind of outpour of support the same way B99 has since the announcement, because while it's not nearly talked about enough (that I've seen anyway) but it has received the same amount of praise and recognition of how amazing it is. Both shows deserve better and I hope they both get renewed somewhere else.

[lyryk.livejournal.com]

I was very sad to hear about B99. Hope it finds a home elsewhere!

[author-by-night.livejournal.com]

I have to admit I lost interest in B99 for a while, but I felt that this season was pretty strong (in comparison to last season). So it's a bummer that just as the show was finding its footing (IMHO anyway), it was cancelled. I'm hoping it's given a chance somewhere else too.

And my more cynical side feels like we lose so many shows anymore too because there's so much Reality TV. I don't want to watch scripted "reality" TV shows, I want to watch stuff like B99.

You're right too that the diversity is refreshing. And very important.

(Maybe if they boot Gina, Fox will renew it? I'd gladly let Gina take the fall. Gina annoys the crap out of me. People compare her to April Ludgate, but I feel like she's closer to Kelly Kapoor from The Office, except Kelly was at least given to us in smaller doses.)

[squint13.livejournal.com]

The first thing I see on twitter this morning is news of the B99 cancellation, and one of the first things I see on twitter when I get home is that The Expanse is also canceleled. WHAT. THE FORK. T_T

I really hope both find new homes. B99 could go for a couple more seasons, easily, without dragging things out or getting boring or anything. The Expanse still have stories to tell, clearly. That could easily run for a couple more seasons aswell. It's just so unfair that they're getting the boot. D:

Also, in this the year of 20gayteen, that has been going pretty well re: queer stuff, the absolute nerve to cancel shows that have only *just* added (more) gay characters/had them come out. THE NERVE.
I mean, 20gayteen is still going fairly well, but I mean. *still* :/

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

For me, B99 never lost its footing and while I may have preferred some seasons to others, as a whole it only got stronger as it continued on. It was a show I could binge-watch and never get bored. It was my happy place, and one of the rare comedies that genuinely made me laugh out loud because of its amazing humor and comedic timing. This season has just been amazing, with the fact that Rosa came out as bisexual only added to how amazing the season was going already. That was such a pivotal moment not just for the show and for the character, but also for television as well since we never get bisexuality mentioned in mainstream media much if at all and B99 made sure it did, and it did it in a way that normalized it without making it seem like a gimmick that most shows often do when handling LGBT topics. This show is so funny and beautiful and heartwarming that it deserves better and I hope that it gets renewed somewhere else.

And I personally love Gina, she makes me laugh and she is an essential part of the show as everyone else, and I was happy when she returned. *shrugs*

And my more cynical side feels like we lose so many shows anymore too because there's so much Reality TV. I don't want to watch scripted "reality" TV shows, I want to watch stuff like B99.

That or we get so many rebooted/revival shows of things that don't need it, since that seems to be the biggest unnecessary trend nowadays. :/

[author-by-night.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I didn't mean to bash Gina on top of everything else you're feeling!

I love how they handled Rosa being bi, too. You're right, there's very little true representation.



That or we get so many rebooted/revival shows of things that don't need it, since that seems to be the biggest unnecessary trend nowadays. :/

YES. It's getting a little old. At least in the 90's, most of the reboots were just movies. (Because it happened in the 90's big time. Everyone gets nostalgic and wants their old loves back.)

[http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/]

I am so annoyed by the cancellation of B99. I loved it so, so much. ♥ I'm not happy about the cancellation of The Expanse either, but at least it must have cost a lot of money, so it does make some sense. I can't say the same about B99.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

It's always heartbreaking hearing news about shows that you love that are cancelled, but there is something especially enraging when you hear news of really high-rated, well-received and beloved shows getting cancelled. It's like, wtf kind of logic is this?

And you're absolutely right, B99 could easily go on for several more seasons and never get tired or boring or rehash anything. They've managed five solid seasons without faltering, and I can foresee them going on for five seasons more with bringing in more hilarity and heartwarming moments and character developments. It's just that good. And when you consider other shows that have gone on for seasons, probably longer than they needed to, yet still get renewed, it makes no sense for an actually good show to not get the same treatment.

And with The Expanse being based on a book series, they clearly are able to tell more with the main story. Though I think they kind of knew that it would've been a possibility that they might not actually be able to complete telling the entirety of the book series (there's like, seven books out so far from a nine book series, I think? so even that is not completed), but I would still like them to at least finish telling the story they're doing in the show, like another couple of seasons or so in order to finish the storyline.

Besides, The Expanse is something I recently discovered and it's such excellent scifi, something I haven't seen since Dark Matter. And for Syfy to cancel both of them is a damn travesty.

I mean, 20gayteen is still going fairly well, but I mean. *still* :/

I know what you mean. Both shows have featured LGBT characters and it's severely disappointing when networks cancel shows that have that kind of representation.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

That's alright, I know you didn't mean anything by it. :) We all have different opinions on characters, and you were just expressing yours.

Everyone gets nostalgic and wants their old loves back.

Which I understand, but most times it doesn't really end well because nostalgia is very unreliable. Bringing back shows from years ago for that reason, without any kind of plan on advancing the plot where it left off, is just repetitive and oftentimes will leave former fans feeling empty or not really liking what was done in the reboot/revival. Having one or two revivals is okay, a dozen of them at once all because they want to hop on the trend is unnecessary and not do well in their favor. Why bring something back for nostalgic purposes when you could, y'know, just rewatch the original series and reminisce of those good times while having newer, original stories be told instead.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: reboots/revivals/remakes are often just there to bank on the nostalgia, nothing more. Sometimes there will be decent ones, but most of them will just be terrible and do nothing to advance the story or the characters.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

It just makes me sad that some of the best produced shows with amazing writing and storytelling end up being the most expensive, therefore the possibility of them getting cancelled is much higher. Like, I understand the business decision logic, but at the same time it's unfair, especially when they don't even get to properly conclude their story.

Either way, I hope both B99 and The Expanse find new homes because they deserve it, dammit. They're both commercially and critically successful shows and deserve more seasons.

[little-huntress.livejournal.com]

I am so sad and annoyed by this news, it's truly heartbreaking to lose such a fantastic and diverse show, the writing, the cast, I loved everything about it. I'm hating Fox so much rn. I just don't get it.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I know. Hearing all the cancellation news now is super depressing, but B99 (and The Expanse, respectively) were some of the best programming I've seen in a long time and, quite frankly, it hurts seeing something so amazing and well-received by critics and audiences alike get cancelled.

Although, due to the massive public response, the chances of B99 getting picked up seem rather good. Let us hope that it does get renewed elsewhere. Same with The Expanse, as well.

[icecoldrain.livejournal.com]

I heard about this on twitter!!! The good news is that it got picked up by NBC, which was announced sometime later today. I'm glad it's been saved!

[little-huntress.livejournal.com]

I just read it got picked up by NBC, so yay, we get more B99. I'm so glad the show can live on :)

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I JUST HEARD THIS TOO! I AM SO HAPPY! Seriously, I am so elated, but I'm also very exhausted because I went through such a rollarcoaster of emotions over the span of two days. But I'm so glad that NBC picked it up! YAY! :DDDD

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I JUST HEARD THIS TOO! YAYYYY! God, this has been one stressful and emotionally draining 48 hours, but I'm happy that at least B99 gets a happy ending. Now let's hope that The Expanse gets this lucky in their findings of a new home, too.

[icecoldrain.livejournal.com]

Same here! I'm still on season one (oop) but I was like NOOOOO YOU CAN'T CANCEL B99!!!! I'm so glad it's been saved. Everyone who are super devoted to it must've be exhausted from the roller coaster of emotions between its cancellation and saving renewal.

[squint13.livejournal.com]

Yeah, definitely. It's just such a weird decision.

I only properly got into The Expanse since uuuh, this year? Ened of last year? I'm a little unsure when I got back to watching it xD, when I was catching up on it before s3 was airing. With some shows, I don't get into them right away, but I might at a later point. And it is so good atm! I cannot believe I didn't properly appreciate Avasarala back in s1. She's amazing, and such a badass. <3

I agree. First DM, now Expanse? :( I get that they're expensive, but meh. I selfishly don't care, and just want them to keep their good space shows.

Yeah. Especially when shows have *just* made their shows more (obviously) gay, like both Dark Matter and The Expanse did.

At least b99 got uncancelled! I just saw the news on twitter (just a tweet from Stephanie Beatriz, but she's all the source I need :D). That was pretty darn fast! Bit of a wild ride, but that may be the fastest uncancellation out of the uncancellations I know of. *nods* Bit impressive. But, with all the people being annoyed by it, and showing their love (including a whole bunch of actors/stars), it makes perfect sense. A network saw the potential, and they went for it. Fox's loss. *sticks tongue at at Fox*

[nemophilist.livejournal.com]

THEY SAVED B99!!!

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I KNOW, ISN'T IT WONDERFUL??! :D

Now it's time for The Expanse to be saved....

[nemophilist.livejournal.com]

I legit teared up reading the cast's tweets :3

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

B99 GOT RENEWED! SAVED BY NBC! :DDDD

Thank you for signing the petition, of course. All the support and help from people definitely contributed to the happy news that was recently announced. Now I only hope that the same kind of news happens with The Expanse, another show that deserves more seasons because they're not done finishing their story yet....

[noybusiness.livejournal.com]

Apparently in The Expanse's case, their original deal meant that only linear live numbers counted, even though their ratings would be better if they counted all the other numbers. Bad business model.

[haebin.livejournal.com]

My friend told me today about The Exapnse as well. Said, that would be one of the best Science-Fiction-Series in years. Like I wrote it in the other entry, I can't understand why really good series are cancelled. *shakeshead*

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I'm hoping it finds itself a new home. The Expanse is probably the best science fiction series I've seen in a while, right next to Dark Matter.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Seriously, it's so infuriating that Syfy continues to do this. They did this with Dark Matter last year, and now they're doing it again with The Expanse. These are two of the best scifi shows the network has had to date since BSG. I'm hoping that somehow The Expanse is able to find itself a new home and that someone will be willing to pick it up, even if for just another season or two, because even though it is based on a (still ongoing) book series there is more of the story to tell, at least let them finish it off properly on their terms.

[meringues.livejournal.com]

I'll never understand why Fox paid B99 such dirt when it's truly nothing but an absolute gem of a sitcom! It's incredible what an outrage arose from it, too, though!

[frelling-tralk.livejournal.com]

I don’t know much about Brooklyn Nine-Nine tbh, a police station comedy never really sound like my sort of thing, but there’s been such an outpouring of love for the show recently that I’m really tempted to check it out

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

They did B99 so dirty, they barely promoted it that I'm actually surprised that it lasted as long as it did because of how badly they were mistreated by the network.

I'm just glad that NBC saved it.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I know it's been said over and over by many, but it's honestly such a good show. Usually comedies nowadays are a huge hit or miss for me for various reasons, but B99 is one of those rare gems that is actually genuinely funny. It is lighthearted and heartwarming but it also doesn't shy away from focusing on serious topics from time to time. Just everything from the comedic timing, the humor, the performances from all the actors, it is so great. Yes, I'm slightly biased because it's a show I love, but it's also one that didn't get on my radar until I heard so much about it and decided to check it out, and I've been in love with it ever since.

Essentially, what I'm getting at is it's definitely worth checking it. The episodes are only half an hour long so it's easy to binge-watch. :)

[batmarg.livejournal.com]

I haven't watched B99 as I tend to avoid comedies, though I'm thinking I'll give it a go since it was apparently worth another tv network (not even an online location but an actual network) snatching up so quickly. If that happened, it must be good.

I'm horrified to hear about The Expanse. I've gotten a few eps behind, but that is easily the best sci-fi show I've seen in years, if not ever. Quality writing and acting.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I mean, I can't speak for everyone since sense of humor is different and subjective, but in my humble opinion B99 is one of those rare gem of comedies that is genuinely hilarious and heartwarming. Someone equated it to a warm comforting hug, which I absolutely agree. It is absolutely delightful and charming, the comedic timing is top-notch and the performances by everyone is amazing. Granted yes, I am a bit biased, but when it comes to comedies I'm rather meh on most of them these days because the majority of them aren't funny. B99, however, is one of the few rare ones that has legitimately made me laugh.

I'm honestly hoping that shopping around for a new home works, whether it's Netflix or Amazon, I don't care. I want more seasons because this is probably the best science fiction show I've seen in a long, long time.

[erychan86.livejournal.com]

The mmglad they save it!!! Now someone needs to do the same thing for Lucifer!!!

Honest: I hate Fox... every time a show I might like shows up on Fox I try to avoid it... but I still hate them for Firefly I guess!

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I haven't watched Lucifer properly yet, but even I was saddened and bummed about the cancellation news, especially since the season ended on a cliffhanger. Some are hoping that it might get revived elsewhere (the CW is constantly being thrown around, since they did save Constantine, well, the character anyway from his cancelled show from another network), but idk. It just sucks all around. :(

FOX has ruined so many good shows with their decisions, it's a wonder why anyone tries anything with them anymore. I saw some claim that we should appreciate FOX because they've given shows a chance when they probably wouldn't have gotten elsewhere, but that's utter bullshit. Sure, it gave life to some shows, but the way they mishandle those shows is inexcusable. Firefly could have easily thrived on another channel had FOX not botched that up from the very beginning. B99, while it lasted five seasons with them which is a miracle in and of itself, could have gotten a lot more promotion and appreciation if it had been on NBC in the first place. Dollhouse could have had an interesting start had FOX not intervened and had too much executive meddling. Wonderfalls had potential but FOX cancelled that show after only four episodes. And there are so many others that they mistreated and mishandled for whatever reason. So yeah, FOX sucks.

[erychan86.livejournal.com]

I remember I was surprised when Dollhouse was renewed for a 2nd season and I was sonsurprised... but not as surprised as knowing Joss pitched a show to Fox again after Firefly... the worst thing about firefly is that Fox figured out it did a HUGE mistake and instead of being a “grown up” about it, it made it impossible for any other network to save it!

Cw would be the perfect home but I don’t think they have the money 💰 Lucifer is expensive :(

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

but not as surprised as knowing Joss pitched a show to Fox again after Firefly...

Well, he wasn't the one who pitched the show. Eliza Dushku had signed a deal with FOX which they would be developing a series of projects underneath that pact deal, and it was due to this that she went to Joss to pitch the show to him and together they decided to give Dollhouse a go.

the worst thing about firefly is that Fox figured out it did a HUGE mistake and instead of being a “grown up” about it, it made it impossible for any other network to save it!

I remember the issue several years ago when FOX wanted to sue fans for making and selling Jayne hats on Etsy (which they'd been previously doing for years) because it was "their property", and that stirred an entire uproar of outrage, and rightfully so. Basically, due to the show becoming such a huge cult phenomenon and its continued rising popularity over the years FOX has decided to be greedy little fucks about ownership over a show they had little faith in and mistreated so horribly, thus making it impossible for anyone to buy the rights. It makes me so angry.

At least we got a movie and the series continues on in different formats (the comics, video games, etc.)

[meringues.livejournal.com]

Here's to hoping NBC will treat it the way it deserves to be treated :)

[blakmagjick]

I just started watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine this past week.
I'm really behind on LJ...but I think it was picked up again...?

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

It was. NBC resurrected B99 (https://rogueslayer452.livejournal.com/755093.html) literally the day after it was announced that FOX cancelled it. It was probably the biggest emotional whiplash we could have had in terms of cancellation/renewal in history, tbh.