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"....If you don't we will both die again and again until the end of time."

CASTIEL AND CROWLEY ARE CYLONS?? SAY WHAT??

SERIOUSLY THOUGH THIS CLIP. WHAT IS GOING ON? I AM LIKE FREAKING THE FUCK OUT OVER IT AND WHAT COULD IT POSSIBLY MEAN. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I JUST....OH MY GOD. CASTIEL, WHAT ARE YOU DOING BB? CROWLEY, WHY YOU BE GETTING SO RILED UP? WHAT IS SO IMPORTANT ABOUT THE WINCHESTERS THAT CROWLEY IS SO GUNG-HO ABOUT KILLING THEM? IS IT THEIR SOULS? I JUST...WHAT DOES THIS CLIP MEEEEAAANNNN?!?!

IDEK WHAT TO THINK, BBS.

THAT'S IT. NO MORE SPOILERS OR CLIPS. IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANGST, I NEED THE FULL-BLOW INSTEAD OF THE TEDIOUS SLOW-BUILDING OF IT OR ELSE I'LL GO ABSOLUTELY MAD.

I'M SERIOUSLY GONNA HIDE UNTIL THIS EPISODE AIRS. I CAN'T POSSIBLY HANDLE ALL OF THIS RIGHT NOW.


Date: 2011-05-03 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyoka.livejournal.com
I'm terrified. Terrified. :(

Date: 2011-05-03 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
TERRIFIED. WORRIED. ON THE VERGE OF HAVING A GODDAMN HEART ATTACK, ETC.

Date: 2011-05-03 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mulder200.livejournal.com
*hugs*

Here are my thoughts on the matter: http://mulder200.livejournal.com/315496.html

And wow! This eps. will be so angsty and heartbreaking. I'm bracing for the worst.

Date: 2011-05-03 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I DON'T THINK I'LL SURVIVE UNTIL FRIDAY WITH THE PREVIEW CLIPS AND SPOILERS COMING OUT, FOR REAL THOUGH. :(

Date: 2011-05-03 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akemi42.livejournal.com
Oooh I want to read your thoughts, but I got access denied. Can you add me?

Date: 2011-05-03 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mulder200.livejournal.com
Done! Let me know what you think.
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Date: 2011-05-03 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
CYLONS, BB. THEY BE FRAKKIN' CYLONS AND THEY KEEP RESURRECTING IN THEIR RESURRECTION SHIP THAT CROWLEY HAS HIDDEN SOMEWHERE, TRUFAX. *NODS* srsly though I got nothing else because my brain just fried by hearing that and....idk what else to think.....

DUDE, YOU ARE SO RIGHT. CROWLEY SEES THE WINCHESTERS AS A THREAT BECAUSE AS HE LISTED ALL THE ENEMIES THEY HAD OVER THE YEARS, FROM LUCIFER RIGHT DOWN THE AZAZEL, THEY BELIEVED THEY COULD WIN OVER THE WINCHESTERS BUT THEY ULTIMATELY FAILED BECAUSE THEIR PRIDE GOT IN THE WAY. CROWLEY ISN'T A FOOL, BRAH. HE KNOWS HIS SHIT AND HE UNDERSTANDS WHO THE WINCHESTERS ARE.

BUT WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN? I DON'T EVEN KNOW. BUT YOU CAN TELL THAT THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER. NEITHER ONE OF THEM FOR THE OTHER, BUT TOGETHER. THE QUESTION IS FOR WHAT AND WHY.

I JUST. YEAH. THIS MINUTE CLIP JUST BROKE ME.
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Date: 2011-05-03 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
HOLY SHIT, I JUST HAD A CRAZY THEORY:

WHAT IF THIS SUPPOSED HIGHER BEING MAKING THEM DO THIS IS ACTUALLY GOD? D:

LIKE OKAY, I KNOW IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IF THAT IS SO THEN WHY WOULD CASTIEL BE GOING ALONG WITH IT, BUT CONSIDERING THAT HE BELIEVES THAT GOD BROUGHT HIM BACK TWICE AFTER BEING KILLED OFF, WOULDN'T THAT WARRANT FOR SOMETHING? I MEAN WHY ELSE WOULD CASTIEL SAY THIS LINE? PERHAPS THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE BROUGHT BACK TO DO REGARDING PURGATORY, MAYBE GOD CANNOT FIND IT AND NEEDS OTHERS TO DO SO, IDK.

THEN AGAIN, WE TEND TO ASSUME THAT GOD BROUGHT CASTIEL BACK. MAYBE THAT ISN'T SO AND SOMETHING ELSE BROUGHT HIM BACK AND ARE USING HIM TO GET WHATEVER IT IS IN PURGATORY. THE MOTHER? MAYBE SHE'S NOT AS "DEAD" AS WE THOUGHT THAT CROWLEY WAS DEAD LIKE BEFORE? IDK IDK IDK

BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT -- GIVEN THE WAY THEY WERE, CASTIEL IN HIS CALM, STOIC MANNER AND CROWLEY YELLING, THERE SEEMED TO BE A NERVOUS TENSION BETWEEN THEM AND THE CONVERSATION THEY WERE HAVING.

GAH. THIS CLIP BRINGS UP SO MUCH THAT IDEK WHAT TO THINK ANYMORE.
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Date: 2011-05-03 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
COULD IT POSSIBLY BE DEATH? BECAUSE DEATH COULD KILL THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND HE'S AN INCREDIBLY POWERFUL SUPERNATURAL BEING... NOT TO MENTION HE COULD EASILY HAVE GOTTEN SAM'S BODY OUT OF THE CAGE...

....

JESUS CHRIST JUMPING ON A POGOSTICK, THIS IS JUST A MIND-BLOWING THEORY IF I EVER HEARD ONE. BECAUSE I CAN DEFINITELY SEE THIS BEING PLAUSIBLE.

PLUS IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF CROWLEY IS ACTING THE WAY HE WAS. I MEAN GIVEN EVERYTHING DEATH SAID HIMSELF LAST SEASON THAT HE'S POWERFUL ENOUGH TO KILL GOD IF HE WANTED TO. AND HE WENT IN AND OUT OF LUCIFER'S CAGE EASY AS PIE TO RETRIEVE HIS SOUL, AND NO ANGEL OR DEMON COULD HAVE DONE THAT AT ALL. JUST, HOLY MOTHERFUCKING WOW. THIS PLACES THINGS ON A WHOLE NEW PERSPECTIVE, CONSIDERING THE PREVIEW OF CASTIEL PRAYING TO GOD ON WHETHER HE'S ON THE RIGHT PATH....MAYBE HE'S SCARED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT DEATH TO KILL GOD OR SOMETHING, IDK.

THIS IS JUST TOTALLY FUCKING WITH MY BRAIN RIGHT NOW. RED-HERRINGS ALL SEASON AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN DEATH ALL ALONG.

BUT WHY WOULD DEATH GIVE DEAN THAT CRYPTIC MESSAGE ABOUT "FOLLOW THE SOULS"? DOES HE WANT THE WINCHESTERS TO FIGURE THIS OUT? ARE THEY PART OF IT SOMEHOW? IS DEATH WANTING THEM FOR SOMETHING? IDK BB, IDK IDK
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Date: 2011-05-03 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
OMG, THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY! :O :O :O

SRSLY, ALL THESE SPECULATIONS ABOUT DEATH BEING THE ORCHESTRATOR OF EVERYTHING IS GIVING ME SOME SERIOUS CHILLS RIGHT NOW, NEGL.
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Date: 2011-05-03 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
ALL OF THIS? IT JUST -- MAKES SENSE. CONSIDERING EVERYTHING WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WENT DOWN THIS SEASON, BECAUSE WHY ELSE WOULD CASTIEL BE SO PISSED ABOUT SAM'S SOUL? WHEN THAT EPISODE AIRED IT SEEMED SO ILLOGICAL, BUT WHEN YOU USE THIS THEORY IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE CASTIEL KNOWS THAT'S WHAT DEATH WANTED ALL ALONG, AND HE WANTS TO PREVENT DEATH FROM USING THE BOYS AS HIS OWN PERSONAL PURGATORY FINDER. AND BECAUSE HE CANNOT SAY ANYTHING FOR FEAR THAT DEATH WILL KNOW, HE'S BEEN BENDING THE TRUTH AND NOT REVEALING ANYTHING. PLUS DEALING WITH HIS OWN WAR AND HOW IT ALL CONNECTS TOGETHER (SOMETHING THAT EVEN HIS RECRUITED SOLDIERS DON'T KNOW) AND IT'S JUST PUTTING SO MUCH PRESSURE ON HIM.

HOLY SHIT. I MEAN, GRANTED THIS MIGHT NOT BE REMOTELY TRUE BUT -- THINKING ABOUT IT, IT JUST CLICKS SO WELL AND EXPLAINS SO MUCH WITH THE BEHAVIOR.

AND DEATH BRINGING CASTIEL BACK THE SECOND TIME....I JUST, YEAH. I WONDER WHAT GOD WOULD HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT. O__O
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Date: 2011-05-03 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
WHOA. THAT'S QUITE AN EERIE REVELATION TO BRING TO LIGHT OF THAT SCENE, AND THAT WHOLE EPISODE REALLY. BASICALLY, DEATH IS ONE SMOOTH MOTHERFUCKER WHO COULD HAVE BEEN OPERATING UNDERNEATH OUR NOSES THE ENTIRE TIME WITH THIS WHOLE ORCHESTRATING EVERYTHING REGARDING THE SOULS AND PURGATORY. AND THAT? IS KINDA SCARY TO REALLY THINK ABOUT. GRANTED I WOULDN'T FORGIVE THE SHOW FOR BEING WASTEFUL THE WHOLE SEASON IF THAT WERE THE CASE, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE A TWISTED KIND OF A WAY OF MISLEADING EVERYONE.

WHAT IF GOD IS IN PURGATORY?

....THAT? WOULD BE AN INTERESTING TWIST FOR THE FINALE, FOR SURE. BUT THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WHY WOULD GOD HAVE BEEN IN PURGATORY AND FOR HOW LONG?

GOOSEBUMPS BB. EVEN IF NONE OF THIS COMES TRUE, THIS IS GIVING ME GOOSEBUMPS BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES SENSE GIVEN SOME OF THE CLUES. BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF HITTING A ROADBLOCK ON THE CURRENT CHARACTERS, WHEN LOOKING BACK THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT KIND OF JUST...STAND OUT. DEATH AND THE SOULS BIT DEFINITELY STANDS OUT, AND THINKING ABOUT IT MORE JUST GIVES ME A SHIVER ABOUT HOW ALL THIS COULD TIE TOGETHER.
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Date: 2011-05-04 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
YOU....MAY BE ONTO SOMETHING, THERE.

I MEAN WE NEVER REALLY GAVE ANY OF THAT A SECOND THOUGHT BECAUSE, WHAT REASON DID WE HAVE TO? BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, ABOUT ALL OF THAT SPECULATIVE THOUGHT REGARDING DEATH, CROWLEY, AND WHAT CASTIEL MIGHT HAVE DISCOVERED AND HAS TO KEEP SECRET FROM THE BOYS.

BUT I WONDER HOW ALL OF THIS CONNECTS TO RAPHAEL? CASTIEL VS RAPHAEL HAS BEEN A HUGE HIGHLIGHT, SO HOW WILL DEATH CONNECT TO HIM?

HE FLED TO PURGATORY BECAUSE HE FEARED THAT DEATH WOULD KILL HIM? 'CAUSE WITH DEATH'S LINES ABOUT HOW HE'LL "REAP GOD" AND "GOD WILL DIE TOO" AND EVERYTHING? YEAH...

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN SEE IT HAPPENING LIKE THAT, YEP.

ACTUALLY, Y'KNOW, WITH ALL OF THESE THEORIES AND HOW EVERYTHING IS KIND OF STARTING TO FIT TOGETHER? I DO WONDER IF THIS IS WHAT THE SHOW'LL DO AND IF IT HASN'T BEEN PLANNED SINCE THE END OF S5. 'CAUSE IF IT'S ALL A COINCIDENCE? MAN, THAT'S A FUCKING EPIC COINCIDENCE.

IF IT'S ALL COINCIDENCE, JUST HOLY SHIT. I MEAN GRANTED THIS SHOW HAS FAILED AT MANY THINGS, BUT HERE WE ARE -- SPECULATING AND THEORIZING SOME CRAZYASS STUFF -- BUT IF ALL THIS TURNS OUT TO BE SOMEWHAT TRUE? LIKE DEATH BEING THE MAIN MASTERMIND BEHIND IT ALL? CASTIEL AND CROWLEY ARE HIS PAWNS? I JUST, YEAH, IDEK.

IT'S JUST SO FUNNY HOW WE'RE SUDDENLY THINKING ABOUT THIS AND MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS. LOL
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Date: 2011-05-03 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
THAT WHOLE THING WITH LENORE AND WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT THE MOTHER GETTING INSIDE HER HEAD, MAKING HER DO THINGS (THE FIRST EVIL MUCH, SHOW?) REALLY GOT TO ME, TOO. BECAUSE THAT WAS NEW BITS OF INFORMATION AND IF THE MOTHER WAS TO BE GANKED ANYWAY, WHY BRING IT UP? PERHAPS IT'S WAY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT, IN FACT BASED ON THIS CLIP ALONE WE KNOW IT'S FAR MORE COMPLICATED THAN ANYTHING WE'VE BEEN REVEALED THIS SEASON.

I WAS ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT CASTIEL'S BEHAVIOR IN THAT SCENE, AS WELL....

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE STRETCHING ANYTHING, BB. WE HAVE ALL BUT SPECULATIONS AT THIS POINT AND IF THE SEASON IS TRYING TO MAKE CONNECTIONS TO THINGS THEN IT'S BETTER TO FIGURE IT OUT, CRACKED OUT THEORIES INCLUDED. ;D

Date: 2011-05-03 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercury973.livejournal.com
Just go to my happy place and all will be well

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/Mercury973/tumblr_lkk8611i4V1qcp2hbo1_500.jpg

(just pulled off tumblr today)

Date: 2011-05-03 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I APPROVE OF THIS HAPPY PLACE. :D :D :D

Date: 2011-05-03 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akemi42.livejournal.com
Crowley seems absolutely fucking insane in this clip. I love it!

BUT I AM VERY CONFUSED!

AND OH, CAS IS SO STUBBORN. "IF YOU KILL THEM I WILL JUST BRING THEM BACK AGAIN."

Cas: Just find purgatory. If you don't we will both die again and again until the end of time.

What the hell is going on?!?!?!?!

Date: 2011-05-03 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I LOVE HOW HE'S JUST ALL RANTY AND RAGEY AND YELLING UNTIL I SWEAR HE'S GONNA BE BLUE IN THE FACE -- WHILE CAS IS JUST STANDING THERE LIKE "CROWLEY BRAH, JUST CALM YO TITS AND HEAR ME OUT, KAY?"

BUT SRSLY. THIS CLIP HAS ME ALL CONFUSED ON WTF IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. D: D: D:

Date: 2011-05-03 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akemi42.livejournal.com
LOL! IT IS A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC THAN I EXPECTED...BUT CAS IS PRETTY STOIC.

I posted my thoughts on what might be going on here (http://chaeche.livejournal.com/547654.html) but I am confused as hell right now.

Date: 2011-05-03 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I AM INTERESTED IN SEEING THEIR INTERACTIONS. I JUST WANT THERE TO BE TONS OF SNARK AND BANTER BETWEEN THEM. EVEN IN SUCH AN ANGSTY EPISODE I JUST WANT SOME KIND OF ~FLIRTATIOUS~ BANTER HAPPENING ESP ON CROWLEY'S END. CALLING HIM "DARLING" OR WHAT HAVE YOU. IDK. IT'S BEEN MY DREAM SINCE LAST SEASON TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. LOL

BUT YEAH, I'M CONFUSED AND SCARED AND WORRIED AND JUST, GAH. D:

Date: 2011-05-03 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akemi42.livejournal.com
YES THE MORE SNARKY NAME CALLING THE BETTER!

Date: 2011-05-03 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
Oh I can't wait! Why do I have to wait?

Date: 2011-05-03 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
LET'S JUST GET THE TARDIS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ENDURE THIS KIND OF SLOW TORTURE. D: D: D:

Date: 2011-05-03 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwaevalarin.livejournal.com
"....If you don't we will both die again and again until the end of time."

Cas, bb, you're scaring me.

Date: 2011-05-03 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
IT'S LIKE THIS WHOLE SEASON HAS BEEN JUST A BLUR AND THIS IS THE ONLY THING RELEVANT TO MY INTERESTS. BECAUSE THIS IS ALL JUST SO CONFUSING YET INTRIGUING AND I'M SCARED YET WANTING TO KNOW MORE.

BEN EDLUND IS GONNA KILL ME WITH THIS EPISODE! ;___;

Date: 2011-05-04 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] entangled-now.livejournal.com
BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

This is why I hate spoilers but can't resist them all the same.

Date: 2011-05-04 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
INORITE?

IT'S LIKE, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE? ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL US, SHOW? D:

AND OF COURSE IT'S OUR OWN DAMN FAULT FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO RESIST THE SPOILERS THAT COME OUT, DAMMIT. LE SIGH.

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