Day 11: "Remember when it used to be good?"

[rogueslayer452]

Day 11 - A show that disappointed you


Heroes



I'll be brutally honest here, there's been no other show that became such a huge disappointment like Heroes turned out to be. It crashed and burned so hard, so fast, that I'm not even angry, just vastly disappointed.

Anyone that's known me for a long while knows that I was completely enthralled with this show. I really loved it you guys, seriously. Season one is what drew me in, hell it's what drew many people in. It had an interesting concept, a television show that was molded into a live action comic book in a way, which I thought was really cool when it first premiered. I remembered watching the promo videos of Claire jumping off the cliff and then reattaching her limbs, and thought, "wow, this looks to be very interesting!" And yes, the first season was incredible and completely original. Sadly, that was the only season the show had that had any kind of originality and consistency. I liked S2 well enough, despite the writer's strike and some issues here and there, but it wasn't until the beginning of the third season that I just stopped completely. Because it wasn't Heroes anymore. It was like they completely abandoned what they originally sought out the show to be and just completely fucked everything up. Just the random shit they did, continuity errors, character assassinations, the fact they made it "all about Sylar and the Petrellis" without any acknowledgment of other characters, lack of consideration with the show's timeline and consistency which made everything entirely confusing. Just the writing in general pretty much stunk as time went on, and it's clear they were just making shit up as they went along.

Never mind the mistreatment not only their characters but their actors as well, the unexpected firing of a particular actor controversy really places icing on that cake.

Plus there's Kring making promise after promise about "fixing things" that were wrong about the show, and yet never delivering on those promises. In fact the more they tried to clean it up the more fucked up they made it. The show just dug itself deeper into that hole, which led to the inevitable cancellation.

Just, this show had such amazing potential in the beginning. I don't know what happened, whether it was their lack of knowing where they wanted to go with it or the pressures of the NBC network due to it being their top-rated show and they grew big heads because of it, but somewhere in the middle of season two and onward they just were lacking what they originally had before and it's just, sad. Incredibly sad to see a show that had something going for it to just bomb like this so fast. It could have been great, but it had major issues and failed on so many levels. And I have never fallen out of love for a show faster than I have with Heroes, and that's just sad to even say.


Masterlist of days here.

Interestingly there's going to be a new NBC fall show, The Cape, which seems to be a replacement for Heroes in a sense, except it looks to have an actual story and plot. And it'll have Summer Glau involved which, anything with Summer is guaranteed to be something worthwhile so, yay. Let's hope the show is what it appears to be from the trailer.

But what's this I hear about them thinking of rebooting Alias? I didn't watch the show but from my understanding it's only been five years since it ended, isn't that too early to start thinking about a reboot?

Comments

[onlyechoes.livejournal.com]

Sigh, Heroes. I don't even know. I kind of miss the days when I could theorize about the Company and then fangirl the characters with so much potential and my OTP Mohinder/Sylar. I haven't even bothered to re-watch the episodes, even though I know I'd still love episodes such as Parasite. Heroes fandom really was important to me and to a lot of people, at least I think so. I love the friends I met through the fandom, I think it's so great that me and other fans are still fandom friends - you included ♥ - and share the same interests in other non-Heroes fandoms as well.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I miss those days, too. Those were good times when there was some mystery integrated in the show that still made sense that we could theorize and meta and fanwank about, and the characters and their powers and whatnot. But the more they tried "explaining" (and I use that term loosely) how things were all connected the more ridiculous it got, because it made less sense. Particularly with continuity, where there was none.

I love the friends I met through the fandom, I think it's so great that me and other fans are still fandom friends - you included ♥ - and share the same interests in other non-Heroes fandoms as well.

Yes, this. ♥ Heroes brought people together, but even when that show failed we stayed together through other means of similar interests. It's amazing that I still have people on my flist who I met through the Heroes fandom but we all share other fandoms too. :) :) This is what's so great about fandom in general. <333

[silverusagi]

I think I watched the first season of Heroes. But I was never really in love with it, and lost interest as it seemed to go nowhere.

And rebooting Alias? Say huh? "The new series would have some elements of the original that propelled Jennifer Garner to stardom. However, they'd skip the intricate mythology involving the Rambaldi prophecy." So basically, it would just be a hot chick in tight outfits kicking ass. What's interesting about that? Story, people, we need story. But yeah, way too soon for a reboot. If they want a spy show, develop a new one.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

The first season definitely had something going for the show, it had much potential and I really liked where things were heading. But after the finale and when they went into other seasons they just lost their sense of direction of what they wanted to do with it.

So basically, it would just be a hot chick in tight outfits kicking ass. What's interesting about that? Story, people, we need story.

Exactly. I haven't watched the show but I know everything needs some kind of story behind it, otherwise there would be no substance. Lacking of mythology or any kind of mystery in the plot is won't go well with people who continue watching to discover what happens next. I mean, I love girls that kick ass and all but there needs to be something more. Without it, it would be kind of ridiculous. There is no need for a reboot anyway if they're going to be doing that, they really need to create something else than rebooting everything out there.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Serious disappointment for all my expectations, since the first season really delivered so much. But they failed on keeping that up.

[aubade-saudade.livejournal.com]

you know, it's hilarious because i read this exact post by a fan from Spain (i think). it's amazing how this show just broke the hearts of so many of us fan wenches from all over the globe.

as i kept saying in my head when i read the other post, "si," "si," "si."

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

This show really did disappoint so many fans. I mean sure, there's still some that have kept with it through thick and thin and that's great for them, but as a whole the show just didn't keep up with the creativity that S1 had. There was no progression of story arcs or even character developments, it seemed like they just kept everything the same, just using different settings.

It's just sad at how low the show sunk. I think I sighed with relief when it was announced to be canceled, because it would be putting the show out of its misery.

[nicole-anell.livejournal.com]

Hee, I love your description in the LJ cut!

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Oddly enough, it's pretty much accurate to the show. lol

[icecoldrain.livejournal.com]

Season one FTW!

I miss Heroes, back when it was good. Even though I was still watching until it got canceled lol. I feel like rewatching the first season now.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Season one was totally the golden season. I think perhaps we should pretend S1 only happened and everything else was just imaginary?

[icecoldrain.livejournal.com]

Sounds good lol. The rest of the seasons were pretty lulzy. Now that it's all over, I kind of wish they were able to finish what they were doing for season two. It probably would have ended the same way though.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

It probably would have, but perhaps with a little more explanation? Or not, judging with how they were doing things on the show.

I read somewhere that someone was blaming the writer's strike for Heroes downfall, which is kind of ridiculous because many shows were suffering from the strike in general but all got back on their feet. Heroes has been struggling to find their ground for a long while now and they've had time to get their shit together. So, it's all about poor direction and poor writing.

[icecoldrain.livejournal.com]

I read somewhere that someone was blaming the writer's strike for Heroes downfall
lol, it was already starting to spin out. If there wasn't a writers strike, the show would have still gone downhill. They had more then enough time to get it together, but it just got worse. It seemed like they kept turning back to what was popular(flashbacks/flashforwards, Sylar, Claire jumping off of something to feel human, Hiro saving the world by time travel), instead of fixing it.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Never mind the lame attempt of the "lesbian kiss" between Claire and her roommate in order to gain more of an audience again. lol Also yeah, the fact that every single character never did anything to change and just stayed relatively the same without much development made everything much worse in the long run.

The show really turned into a train wreck, and just reading up on those that defend those mistakes are amongst the lulziness of the entire thing.

[icecoldrain.livejournal.com]

I totally forgot about that. And Claire needing to "feel human" came up way more then it should of. It was like we get it, she can heal and doesn't feel human because of it. Stop bringing it up when she's falling of a building or cutting her hand or something.

Wait they backtracked on Sylar, took the HBICness away from Angela, and tood HRG badass-ness away instead of further developing them lol.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

They also placed Mohinder into the background then completely forgot about him, even though he was a primary main character of the cast as well. I think that's the saddest thing out of them all for me, because he was my favorite character and yet they mistreated him and pushed him off to the side. Plus, the show completely backhanded Sendhil when he tried to get an offer for another show even though they were hardly using him. :/

They also wrote off Molly and Micah and Monica without any explanation, and made Matt a complete douche.

It's just, so much fail regarding this show it's so laughable now when you think about all the bullshit they tried. It also makes you wonder now that the show is over what the actors can now say about the show and how it ended up, since they're no longer contracted.

[squaringkarma.livejournal.com]

Wow, I had no idea that Adrian was fired!

But I did Heroes for a show that disappointed me, too.

Waaaaay too early for an Alias reboot. *fingers crossed for The Cape*

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Apparently a pink slip announcing that he was fired was slipped into his script one day, so they didn't even have the audacity to tell him to his face. Just, wow. :/

Looking forward to The Cape too. *crosses fingers with you*

[alexwhitman25.livejournal.com]

Oh Heroes...So much potential, so much waste. I will always have major, major love for HRG, but even his BAMFness wasn't enough to keep me around for S3.

The Alias reboot talk is just ridiculous. Sark does not approve of this tomfoolery.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

It's very clear that Kring and the rest had absolutely no idea where they were going with the show. Even when I stopped watching just hearing what they were doing just made me facepalm with second-hand embarrassment.

At least now the actors can move on to better things?

The fact that they're thinking of a reboot is just stupid. Isn't there a rule that you have to wait a decade or two to pass before even considering a reboot of something else? If not there should be, too many things are getting rebooted when they should be left alone.

[falsebeginnings.livejournal.com]

I pretty much stopped after Season Two. I loved HRG and adored the addition of David Anders and Kristen Bell and then when they died I pretty much lost any reason to watch this show. Not even my love for some of the actors in the cast was good enough to make me stay.


Interestingly there's going to be a new NBC fall show, The Cape, which seems to be a replacement for Heroes in a sense, except it looks to have an actual story and plot. And it'll have Summer Glau involved which, anything with Summer is guaranteed to be something worthwhile so, yay. Let's hope the show is what it appears to be from the trailer.

Ooooh...it's a superhero show (which I admittedly am a sucker of) and with Summer Glau? I'll definitely be tuning in. I hope it's good.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I love mostly all the actors on the show, got introduced to a lot of them in S1 actually, but they weren't enough to salvage how bad the show had gotten. Plus they are so disregarded on the show with their characters in general. It's like you have these talented actors, use them!

The trailer looks pretty promising, but of course we're going to have to see how it plays out before we judge. But I'm a sucker for Summer Glau, I'd follow her anywhere she goes with her career so. ;)

[morbidmuse.livejournal.com]

Yes yes yes to everything you wrote about Heroes. I loved the first season. It was original and brilliant. It is a shame that none of the other seasons even came close. The show just continued to go further and further downhill after the first season, unfortunately.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Exactly, and that's what so sad is because the show got many people loving it, it was just that good. But then people started drifting away like I did because the quality wasn't that great anymore. It's very obvious they had no clue what they were doing, that they had no plan of action post-S1 and were just making it up as they went along.

For any show, that's just pitiful. Especially with the claims that they would fix the mistakes when they didn't.

[imisspadfoot21.livejournal.com]

Aww...Heroes. The show that kept getting worse...I still haven't seen most of the last season.

And wow reboot of Alias? I watched Alias since the beginning and I loved it but yeah it's too soon IMO for a reboot.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

It just got buckets of ridiculous the more they went on, they really didn't stay consistent with their original idea or concept. It's just sad, since the show sky-rocketed during its first season but crashed so hard since then.

I think JJ Abrams is just looking for something else to do now that LOST is over. idek

[carameltrap.livejournal.com]

Oh, Heroes. I've loved S1 because like you said, it was original and amazing. There was no other show like it that time but when S2 came around, it went tumbling down to another direction. I quit watching after S2.

I had no idea that Adrian was fired!

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think a lot of people who watched the show from the beginning felt the same way. I quit very earlier into S3, not even bothering because I knew that they were taking the show completely in a whole other direction and it wasn't good. And I'm glad I did because even the characters I loved once I don't think I would stay for with all the character assassinations they were doing. :/

That was the biggest news to come out of this recent season. I was shocked to learn that nobody had the audacity to treat these actors like human beings.

[kitchensexslave.livejournal.com]

*sigh* I loved Heroes when it started out, it just got to be embarrassing. I only heard what happened in the last series and it sounded.... awful.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Awful and weird and just absolutely lulzy. I mean, I think once you leave the fandom and look at it from the outside you really see how ridiculous it kinda is. Looking back at S2 the most headdeskworthy thing they promoted was ~*~THE BOX~*~ that went along with Peter's strange amnesia storyline which, lolwtf? And everything else that happened beyond that was just terrible.

It's like suffering secondhand embarrassment as a former fan, you know? Such a travesty the show ended up where it did when it could have done so much better.