WHAT. I CAN'T EVEN.

[rogueslayer452]

DANIEL GRAYSTONE, YOU ARE GONNA DIE.

LIKE OKAY, I GOTTA LOVE THE MORAL GRAYNESS OF HIS CHARACTER. BUT SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE HELL DID HE THINK HE WAS DOING? PSYCHOLOGICAL TESTS TO "PROVE" THAT ZOE STILL EXISTS IN THE CENTURION? THAT SHE STILL IS INSIDE THE MCP?

IF HE TRULY BELIEVED THAT HIS DAUGHTER'S AVATAR WAS STILL INSIDE THE ROBOT, WHY DID HE DO ALL THOSE THINGS? I KNOW IT WAS TO PSYCH HER OUT IF SHE WAS BEING DISOBEDIENT AND GETTING HER TO TALK TO HIM - BUT THAT WAS TAKING IT TOO FRAKKING FAR. WAY WAY TOO FRAKKING FAR.

THIS IS THE DOWNFALL OF EVERYTHING. YOU TREAT THE MACHINE WITH RESPECT YOU ASSHOLE, NOT PUSH ITS LIMITS TO YOUR LIKING!

MY CYLON-LOVING SIDE IS SO ANGERED RIGHT NOW. MORE THAN EVER ESPECIALLY SINCE WE KNOW ZOE IS IN THERE.

SHE'S A TOUGH GIRL, BUT GODDAMN IF THIS IS GOING TO FUEL HER RAGE AND DISTRUST OF DANIEL EVEN MORE BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID.


THIS SHOW. I JUST. OMG. ANYONE THAT CONTINUES TO NITPICK IT AFTER THIS JUST NEEDS TO STFU AND GTFO BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW JACKSHIT.

Comments

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

Caesar wasn't in danger, Daniel made sure of that hence his using blanks. It isn't like he asked the U-87 to grab the dog and tear his head out which he could have...

I agree with you that before going on with his little tortures Daniel sort of reminded himself that his oe wasn't reall in the Cylon. So yes Daniel is partly excusing his behaviour here, like Sam deals with his, like Zoe excused her shooting Ceasar, like Jospeh shooting people in the club, by knowing/believing that this is not real.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

Caesar wasn't in danger, Daniel made sure of that hence his using blanks. It isn't like he asked the U-87 to grab the dog and tear his head out which he could have...

And that makes okay? It doesn't matter of what method he used to be "safer", it's the intention of putting a living creature in that kind of danger for his own purposes of getting whatever answers he needed, whether in reality or for his own reassurance of his mind. That is NO EXCUSE for endangering a poor innocent dog like Caesar.

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

But he was not endangering Ceasar. He didn't have any intention of putting the dog in danger. He was bluffing, something that was foreshadowed in the outside scene when he used a poker analogy.

I'm more angry at Zoe eventually, because I think she didn't know that Ceasar wasn't in danger, her face just before Daniel started counting told me so, and I don't buy what she told Lacy later, it was just her way to excuse her behaviour for letting the Cylon take charge and shoot Ceasar. The writing is very smart. All the storylines are connected and Sam telling Joseph that you can kill/shoot anyone if you think it isn't real is the key of the whole episode. Both Joseph and Zoe found the killer inside of them.

[rogueslayer452.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry, but I very much disagree with that. Bluff or not, harming the dog in anyway was just ruthless and cruel.

Zoe might not have known at first about Daniel's intentions or how far he was willing to go, but I think she was being absolutely truthful when she told Lacy about the robot's knowledge coming through when she grabbed the gun. Zoe wouldn't ever hurt anyone like that intentionally or put anyone in danger, and while she was willing to do whatever Daniel commanded just so he wouldn't find her out, I think she wouldn't dare cross that line if Daniel himself were to risk his own dog in that crossfire -- because it was also be his own fault, too.

If Zoe found the killer inside of herself, it was mainly pushed by Daniel by these so-called tests.