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Comment with one of my fandoms, and I'll reply with:

01. The first character I first fell in love with
02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
04. The character I love that everyone else hates
05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
06. The character I would shag anytime
07. The character I'd want to be like
08. The character I'd slap
09. A pairing that I love
10. A pairing that I despise


Most of you know my fandoms, if not here are the rundown of my most current ones: Battlestar Galactica, Heroes, House, Supernatural, Criminal Minds, Painkiller Jane, Psych and all Jossverse fandoms. Any fandoms otherwise may do as well, these are just the main ones on the top of my list, or that I'm particular familiar with and knowledge of without revisiting to answer questions.

Date: 2007-08-15 01:42 am (UTC)
ext_41053: (heroes - sylar - basically!)
From: [identity profile] snowfire.livejournal.com
Ooh. Heroes?

Date: 2007-08-15 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
Claire and Niki. It was the character of Niki that originally drew me into watching the series, and after watching the pilot I knew it wouldn't disappoint. I loved Claire for the same reasons, she's too adorable! I mean c'mon, who doesn't love girls who kick ass?

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
In the beginning I didn't like Nathan, he seemed so pompous and holier-than-thou. However it was the politician within him, as further on in the series his character began to change, to question the motives and decisions placed upon his shoulders, and I began to love him more and more. Same with HRG, with his morally grey standards. Also Mohinder, despite having a back-and-forth storyline I understand why that had to happen, and really now the last several episodes were just awesome (Molly and Mohinder = uber cuteness FTW!) I would say Sylar as well, but his character likeability was a gradual buildup so, yeah.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Hmmm...I can't think of anybody right now. I mean, there are characters that I don't like but I don't think anyone else loves them (i.e. Candice).

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
Niki and Mohinder are probably less liked in the fandom I think based on the slowness of their storylines, but I love them. Same with Matt Parkman, until he teamed up with Ted and HRG (it's funny, how when some characters join others they're automatically more interesting).

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
None.

06. The character I would shag anytime
Sylar (or Gabriel Gray, or Zane!Sylar, whichever version I don't care), Mohinder, Peter (especially dark!Peter), and just for the fun of it Niki-as-Jessica. *glees*

07. The character I'd want to be like
Claire Bennet. She's strong, independent, caring, stubborn but sweet, and although she may be fragile and vulnerable at times she's persistent and overcomes those obstacles and carries onward with her head held high. I would never have guessed she was only 16-years-old, because Claire seems to have wisdom beyond her years, not to mention has experienced quite a hell of a lot. Claire is awesome, and if I were to become anybody it would definitely have to be her.

08. The character I'd slap
Angela Petrelli and Thompson. Also Candice.

09. A pairing that I love
Mohinder/Sylar, Claire/Peter, and Claire/Zach.

10. A pairing that I despise
Peter/Simone. Does anyone actually like them together?

Date: 2007-08-15 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jirucloud.livejournal.com
you answered my pairing question ^.^

lol! Simone... the only good thing that came of her was the pretty pictures... >.> Also, Candace? I think no one likes her because her character is basically a bitch/ she seems like she's trying to go out with Matt while he's trying to get things together with his wife... yuck.

yay! Mohinder! He is my favourite character~ although I did like the Haitian as well ^.^ no one ever talks about him

Date: 2007-08-15 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
Yeah, the actress playing Simone was very pretty however the character did nothing for me. The only connection she had to the main plot her father who was behind the knowledge of the pre-planned explosion in the first place. Candice, definitely a bitch. While she had some moments that made me rethink her character (i.e. her limited time with Micah), she turned around to be a bitch again. Ugh. If you've seen the graphic novel surrounding her character and what she really looks like, it puts things into perspective, but not really sympathetic towards her. Which kind of places my theories for S2 out of whack if what I think is true....

Hee, Mohinder is love. I liked the Haitian as well, although he was pretty much a minor character most of the time just standing in the background being creepily mysterious and silent. I hope he returns next season.

Date: 2007-08-15 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valiant.livejournal.com
Supernatural!

Date: 2007-08-15 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
Dean Winchester! ♥ He's probably one of the main reasons why I watched the show in the first place (blame Jensen Ackles, the handsome talented bastard). Snarky, sarcastic, hardass at times but hilarious and does whatever to protect his brother and bring their family back together again.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
I have to admit Sam. I mean, I liked him I just didn't love him as much as I did Dean, even though Dean is top of the list I've come to love Sam more and more now. Also Bobby, and I blame the S2 finale for that one because paternally!concerned!Bobby is just awesome.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Uh, no one?

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
Jo Harvelle. Being a Alona Tal fan I was excited to see her on SPN, although I get that her character didn't have solid episode story arcs I loved her every second she appeared on there. I think Jo would've been a perfect asset to the show, if only the writing and ideas hadn't let her go so quickly. And let me tell you, if they don't have her come back even for a few episodes next season, I'm gonna hafta strangle a bitch. >:O

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
No one.

06. The character I would shag anytime
That's obvious isn't it? Dean!

07. The character I'd want to be like
I don't think I'd be like any one character, because they're all complex in their own ways. So I really don't know.

08. The character I'd slap
Sometimes there are moments where I do want to slap Sam, like in S1 where he and John were arguing between each other with Dean playing refuree.

09. A pairing that I love
Dean/Jo.

10. A pairing that I despise
Sam/Dean. I just can't get behind the Wincest train, I mean I know others like it and that's fine but I personally don't see it.

Date: 2007-08-15 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigrun.livejournal.com
Criminal Minds! :D

Date: 2007-08-15 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
Gideon, of course. He's what drew me into the show (yay for Mandy, which is sad now considering the recasting situation). Also, Garcia is so adorkable and Morgan for being sweetly adorkable with her, plus he's fine as hell. Damn!

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Reid and definitely Hotchner. I think Hotchner is more on that scale because he always seems slightly offbeat and doesn't particularly smile as much, and I'm used to seeing Thomas Gibson smile A LOT from Dharma and Greg. I liked Reid though it's from his character exploration that made me love and appreciate his character more.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Hmmm, does fandom like Emily Prentiss? I don't know, I'm indifferent with her since she replaced Elle. And I liked Elle. Though I'm glad that in the show they showed the indifference between her and the other characters to really emphasis that Elle was, in fact, part of the team and she wasn't no matter how hard she tried to prove herself. Though I have been warming up to her character bit by bit.

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
Umm, I'm not really sure? I like JJ, but I don't think anybody hates JJ because she's made of awesome, like everyone else on the BAU team.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
No one.

06. The character I would shag anytime
Heee, Morgan. :D

07. The character I'd want to be like
A mixture of Garcia and JJ, if you please.

08. The character I'd slap
I'm not sure there's a character I'd slap per se, though there are episodes where a character will go through something and it makes me go "OMG you idiot!" Other than that, I think the only one I wanted to slap was Prentiss when she came onto the scene.

09. A pairing that I love
OMG, although they aren't technically a couple Morgan/Garcia interactions are the adorablest thing EVER! Same with JJ/Garcia moments, they are like BFFs with benefits, shall we say. ;)

10. A pairing that I despise
Nada.

Date: 2007-08-15 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigrun.livejournal.com
Hee, I think that Morgan/Garcia are the only vaguely canon 'ship on the show. ;) I definitely see where you get the JJ/Garcia thing though; being the only non-field agents, they've spent a lot of time together. :D

I have to admit that I feel the exact opposite about Emily & Elle. :/ By the last few episodes of her run, Elle was annoying the heck out of me. I didn't particularly care for the way they introduced Emily, but I like her well enough.

and I'm used to seeing Thomas Gibson smile A LOT from Dharma and Greg.
Sometimes I have trouble taking Hotchner seriously when he's being all serious, because I can't get 'Greg' out of my head. I've seen Thomas Gibson in other stuff, but I think he will always be Greg to me. :D

Date: 2007-08-15 02:10 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-08-15 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
Faith. I liked the Scoobies and everyone else, but Faith was the first character I fell in love with. Like, totally.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Hmmm, I'd say Cordelia and Spike. In the beginning Cordelia had yet to grow on me, but the more I watched the more I loved her. With Spike, well, it's a love-hate relationship with him really. But yeah, routing for the bad guy in the earlier seasons.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Riley? Does everyone like Riley? Because me no fond of him, nope.

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
Dawn Summers. People are bugged by her, but I love her. I can identify with her on many levels, about being the youngest sibling and finding out things earlier than I should've, going through a difficult and struggling adolescence. Plus she's strong, and matured and faced some demons (literal and metaphorical). I just like her.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
Umm, I think Buffy is in that category and basically in the later seasons she turned into a bitch in my eyes. I mean, I can understand why but there are times when I wanted to bitchslap her ass and make her see what's in front of her. Again, there's the Spike issue. I loved him in the beginning of the series when he was badass, even when he was badass while civil towards Buffy and company, however once they made him fluffy!emo and "I has soul nowz, woe-is-me" I kind of lost interest in that regard to his character. Badass Spike all the way.

06. The character I would shag anytime
Faith, without a doubt.

07. The character I'd want to be like
It's gonna be a mixture here: a little bit of Faith, a little bit of Dawn. The smarts, the badass attitude and kickass feminine wiles, not to mention superhuman strength...there you go. :)

08. The character I'd slap
Riley. Spike (later seasons). Buffy (later seasons). Willow (for getting involved with Kennedy, and resurrecting Buffy when it wasn't her right to play God).

09. A pairing that I love
Faith/Buffy, Buffy/Angel, Willow/Oz, Willow/Tara, Xander/Cordelia.

10. A pairing that I despise
Buffy/Riley, Buffy/Spike.

Date: 2007-08-15 02:10 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-08-15 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
Shawn Spencer. Hee. Gotta love him.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Lassiter. Normally with such roles like that you either love or hate the character, and I was fully expecting to dislike him however, as the episodes went on I'd begun to really like Lassiter and what he brings to the show in general.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
I don't think I dislike anyone on this show. It's the kind of show where even if you're not fond of a specific character you just don't hate them. It's the setup, is what it is.

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
Again, I don't think many people hate other characters simply because it's a lighthearted kind of show.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
No such thing.

06. The character I would shag anytime
Shawn. Like, duh.

07. The character I'd want to be like
Is there a character I'd want to be like? I'm not sure, I'd like to have the Shawn's heightened observational skills but that's basically it. That's not "becoming a character" per se, though it's a quality within a character that I would like to possess, which is almost the same thing.

08. The character I'd slap
Hee, I'm not going there....

09. A pairing that I love
Shawn/Juliet, because they're cute like whoa.

10. A pairing that I despise
None. Strangely enough, this show doesn't really have enough pairings our couplings to really do this.

Date: 2007-08-15 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
Gregory House. Incidentally, I knew I would like him from the moment I looked up the show. He's a snarky, sarcastic bastard...and I like it.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
I've liked Cuddy, I just didn't expect her to be made of so much awesome. Which is totally is. Also Wilson, for the same reason. I think perhaps I like them because they're the only characters that can tolerate to be around House, even during his most inane acts.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
I...really don't know. I dislike Cameron, a lot, but she's not liked by the House fandom either so it's not really an unpopular thing.

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
Chase. Come on, how could you not love him? The Australian accent, and even House agrees about his hair being adorable!

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
I didn't used to like him at first, but Foreman had this on/off thing with me. At first he was annoying with screaming and yelling at House, then he started to pull back and let things be, understanding House's procedures and the way he works. And then, suddenly, he resigns because he doesn't want to become House. It's like, dude, pick a side already and stay with it!

06. The character I would shag anytime
Chase or Wilson, or Cuddy. I would've said House, but that would be way to conventional and predictable. And all the ladies in the fandom would be saying "get in line" which, believe, there would be a LONG line for that. Damn you, Hugh Laurie.

07. The character I'd want to be like
Lisa Cuddy, all the way baby!

08. The character I'd slap
Cameron and Foreman. Multiple times, actually.

09. A pairing that I love
House/Wilson = OTP FTW, and House/Cuddy.

10. A pairing that I despise
House/Cameron. Nuh-uh, no freaking way.

Date: 2007-08-15 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinandtonic.livejournal.com
Battlestar Galactica!

Date: 2007-08-15 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
My top three favorite characters are Sharon, Six and Kara. Initially, coming into this show I knew I loved Sharon and Six, but since that time my love upon other characters has expanded.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Saul Tigh is certainly one of those characters that on the outside he seems like a bastard who drinks too much and makes the wrong calls and judgment on things, however there's more to his character than meets the eye. You can't just look at him from first impressions, you have to get a feel about who he really is before making that call. I see it like Kara has seen it, you have to reach a common ground of understanding, and that's how I feel about Saul Tigh. You don't want to admit you like him but, in the end, you really do.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
I honestly don't know.

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
I liked Boomer. I know there were people who didn't care much about Boomer at first, but she's what got me watching the show in the first place. Both Boomer and Six, actually as stated above. But I do like how Boomer has changed and grown since then, even if it's not exactly how you'd imagine her to take things.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
I guess you can say Boomer post-S2, since her character's storyline has pretty much lessened because her arc is done with. It was all about her accepting her true nature, and now that she has I don't think she'll be returning anytime soon. I'm more of the Athena supporter now. I still like Boomer, but Athena has taken hold of my heart.

06. The character I would shag anytime
Hee, Anders. And yeah, Six and possibly Sharon too order me my own copies please.

07. The character I'd want to be like
I guess I really admire Kara and Sharon. Kara's been through a lot, Lord knows how many times she's been mindfrakked and tossled with, both by humans and Cylons alike. But she's overcome them, perhaps not in the brightest sense but Kara is tough and likes to fight back. Sharon, or "Athena", is also someone I would like to become. Despite everything she's gone through, all she ever wanted was to show how much she can be trusted and that her love for Helo was sincere, that Cylons can change from their original mission and supposed programming. She's proven numerous of times, and even when she was getting rejected and beaten and looked down upon, she kept her strength. Her love for Helo, for their child, was so strong that she kept moving onward. Although she went through a period of despair, she overcame that and dealt with it accordingly. She's an admirable character, both of them are, and I would want to be them when I grow up.

08. The character I'd slap
Gaius Baltar. I mean, who wouldn't want to bitchslap Gaius Baltar? Seriously.

09. A pairing that I love
Sharon/Helo, Six/Gaius, Adama/Roslin.

10. A pairing that I despise
Lee/Dualla.

Date: 2007-08-15 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avintageidea.livejournal.com
Doctor Who (Billie Love!) :D

Date: 2007-08-15 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
Rose Tyler, naturally. I admit I hadn't seen the older, original series before so coming into DW was entirely new for me, but I loved Rose from the beginning. She reminds me of myself, in some aspects of her normal, mundane lifestyle.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Mickey. I was "meh" about him at first, but he grew on me. Go figure.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Um, I'm not sure? I guess everyone jumps with joy at the Tenth Doctor, and while I like him too I much prefer Nine.

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
It seems that everyone in the DW fandom is ragging on Martha, however I kinda like her. Sure, she's no Rose obviously, but she doesn't have to be. Rose and Martha are completely different, she's not a replacement whatsoever. Also, it seems that people are forgetting that the Doctor has had many companions along with him before, Martha is no different from them. So yeah, I like Martha. Love Rose, but like Martha.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
None. Everyone I've loved before I still love. End of story.

06. The character I would shag anytime
Nine, Ten, and Rose. What? It's possible that I like all three and would shag all three! Because they are teh sexy, no?

07. The character I'd want to be like
Rose. That's self-explanatory right there.

08. The character I'd slap
Although I mentioned I do like Martha, sometimes there are moments where she needs to be reminded where her priorities lie while being with the Doctor.

09. A pairing that I love
Rose/Nine or Rose/Ten which, technically, same person but still. It's Rose/Doctor!

10. A pairing that I despise
None.

Date: 2007-08-15 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brennans.livejournal.com
Veronica Mars

Date: 2007-08-15 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
Veronica Mars. From the pilot with her sarcastic, snarky wit and cleverly spoken voiceovers, I knew she would be a female character I would like, and watching her every week wouldn't be so bad. I also loved the relationship she had with her father, which drew my attention immediately, since at that time there were hardly any good father-daughter relationships on television. Veronica/Keith = Best. Ever.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Lilly Kane. Admittingly I didn't know how to react to her character at first, but after the first season I decided that I LOVED Lilly. Also Dick Casablancas. Sure, Dick's a dickweed and jerkoff (no puns intended), but he's proven himself to have some kind of depth, and I blame Ryan Hansen for making me like him later on.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Logan. Sorry, I just don't like the guy. He has some nice moments here and there and I admit he can be a woobie, but none of which really took my breath away and I don't love him like the VMars fandom obsessively does. I see the guy as an asshole by nature, even with his woobie moments. *ducks from raging Logan fans*

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
Piz. I only saw scattered S3 episodes, but from what I've seen I do like Piz. For some reason he reminded me of Zac Efron. I don't know why.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
I guess I should say Logan again, because I did like him for a time (when he and Veronica were secretly having their relationship in S1), but after that it all went downhill. Also Beaver, especially after what happened at the end of S2 of him being the rapist and murderer. You don't DO THAT to a character I was actually loving.

06. The character I would shag anytime
"Weevil love you long time." ♥

07. The character I'd want to be like
Veronica, but early S1!Veronica. The spunkiness, the I-Take-Shit-From-No-One attitude, defiance when it's appropriate, and the chops for getting revenge and seek justice in a sleek, smooth and stealthy kind of way. Gotta love that, Veronica being a sleuth prowess in that respect, which is something I wish to acquire.

08. The character I'd slap
Lianne Mars for abandoning her family, lying, stealing and abandoning her family once again. She wins the Deadbeat Mother Award for sure.

09. A pairing that I love
Weevil/Veronica.

10. A pairing that I despise
Even though I liked them in S1, Logan/Veronica had gotten annoying afterwards and unbearable as they continued that soap opera-ish dramarama relationship crap.

Date: 2007-08-15 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beauty-awake.livejournal.com
GAH! There shall be no slapping of Riley... this is where you and I differ hugely!!! BAH!!!!

FIREFLY!!!!

Date: 2007-08-15 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I can't help it, I don't like Riley! Never have, never will, which I guess we'll agree to disagree on that issue. And watch BSG already!!

01. The first character I first fell in love with
Mal, and shortly thereafter River. Malcolm Reynolds is probably the scruffiest captain who has won my heart, aside from Han Solo that is. Just the way his character is, his way of thinking, his personal conflictions and how he views his crew...gotta love him. And River, it's quite obvious isn't it? River is my girl.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Jayne. I know we weren't supposed to like him, but Adamn Baldwin is made of awesome and therefore the character is too. Just sayin'.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
No one.

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
Does Book count? I don't know if he's hated amongst the fandom, but he's clearly underappreciated.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
Nobody. I love everyone. ♥

06. The character I would shag anytime
Mal, Inara, and possibly Jayne as long as he promises to call in the morning, which I don't think he will but whatever

07. The character I'd want to be like
River Tam. Despite the fact that she seems fragile, broken and vulernable, hidden in that small girl is strength and persistence; she's tough and strong, and doesn't let anyone mess around with her. From the beginning of the series she may seem meek, but come during "Objects in Space" she can outsmart even the most skilled bounty hunter. Now that's why River kicks ass, even without being physical. She's intelligent and courageous, and doesn't gloat about it either. Which is why I adore her so much, and would like to become that as well.

08. The character I'd slap
Simon, though only playfully just to get some sense into the boy. Because while he, too, is intelligent he sometimes is too dense.

09. A pairing that I love
Simon/River, Inara/Kaylee, Inara/Mal, Zoe/Wash.

10. A pairing that I despise
Jayne/River. I don't despise it, I just don't understand it.

Date: 2007-08-15 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flood-and-fire.livejournal.com
Angel! just to complete the Jossverse collection!

Date: 2007-08-15 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
01. The first character I first fell in love with
Doyle. I already liked Angel and when Doyle was introduced in "City of Angel" I loved him off the bat.

02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
Cordelia. Having her transferred from BtVS to Angel was a smart move, even though I missed her bantering sessions with the Scoobies I loved her joining with Angel. Something I didn't expect from her if you were watching the first few seasons of Buffy. She became ultimately one of my favorite characters from both shows.

03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
Fred. There were times when I couldn't stand her, and times when I liked her. It's a love/hate thing, I was saddened when she died but happy that we'd gotten Illyria in her place. Does that make sense?

04. The character I love that everyone else hates
Connor. Okay, not exactly loving him really but I enjoyed his character more than the fandom did.

05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
Wesley. I missed pompous uptight Wesley, and then he became grundgy, scruffy and brooding much like Angel had been. He did a complete 180, and I'm not saying that he didn't have the right to. Tons of things went down that caused his character's attitude to change, but I liked innocent!Wesley a bit better that brooding!Wesley, because he was more hilarious and awkward then. But perhaps that's just me.

06. The character I would shag anytime
Angel(us), depending on the circumstance. And Gunn.

07. The character I'd want to be like
Cordelia, because she'd matured greatly since the beginning, of both shows actually. Frome being a wealthy self-centered popular girl who looked down on people to having a heart, fighting demons and ascending to a higher plain and ultimately sacrificing herself and offering helpful advice to those she worked with...now there's something to look up to. Cordelia, ever since getting those visions from Doyle (I'm STILL crying over that) her perspective of the world changed, as did her appreciation for what they do.

08. The character I'd slap
Wesley and Spike.

09. A pairing that I love
Angel/Faith. I love their connection and understanding one another's pains and suffering. He helping her and vice versa, so it comes around full-circle.

10. A pairing that I despise
While it was cute, it took too long for Wesley/Fred to get involved and left me devastated in the end. *shakes fist at Joss* Also, Cordelia/Connor. I mean really, WTF was that?!

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