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++ So, we're having a massive heat wave that'll last throughout the next week. Awesome. Good thing that I've been staying inside during the majority of this year because fuck if I'm going out in that nonsense.

++ Agents of SHIELD had their series finale the other night, and I'm still mulling over the fact that the show is officially over, making it the end of Marvel television (outside of Helstrom, whenever that'll be). I don't have much thoughts other than I absolutely loved this show. It had its ups and downs throughout but overall it was a solid fantastic show that got better and better as it progressed, which is something I always say to anyone who bounced after the first several episodes of the first season. I still maintain that the S5 finale best served for a series finale, but I do like that the final season attempted to further wrap things up with the emphasis on family, both blood and found family, which was the message throughout the entire series. Thank you, Agents of SHIELD, for seven wonderful seasons, and especially thank you for introducing me to one of my favorite characters, Daisy Johnson. ❤

++ The creators of Avatar: The Last Airbender have left the live-action Netflix series. It feels like déjà vu all over again. I haven't watched the animated series myself, but I know it's such a beloved series and many fans were excited for the possibility of a faithful live-action adaptation since the last attempt was an utter failure to an extreme, so this no doubt has stirred a lot of disappointment and frustration among the fanbase. Many are concerned and skeptical if Netflix truly has the best intentions in mind. And with "creative differences" being a major factor here, well, it's kind of foreboding because that's never a good sign. Truthfully, while good in theory, I'm of the mind that not every animated series/movie needs a live-action adaptation, since animation can achieve certain things that live-action cannot. Avatar: The Last Airbender is considered by most to be an absolute masterpiece on its own, so a live-action series isn't really necessary.

What do you guys think? Should this planned live-action series still happen? Do you think it has potential to be good even without the original creators involved? Or do you just not care either way especially since the animated series still exists and is available to watch anytime you want?

++ And now a pleasant surprise: it was announced that Christopher Eccleston will be returning as the Ninth Doctor for an audio drama, with twelve episodes scheduled. As someone who was introduced to Doctor Who by him, Nine was not only my first Doctor but my favorite Doctor overall. It's also why I enjoy Thirteen, because she reminds me of Nine a bit. I always felt that Nine is severely underrated and underappreciated by most, so much so that I keep seeing people recommend starting with Ten to newcomers because "he's so much hotter and lasts longer" than Nine did and it's like, what the fuck? No. Nine is great, utterly fantastic, and I'm happy that we'll be getting some new material from him, even if it's audio form.

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So, we're having a massive heat wave that'll last throughout the next week.
I feel you. We had to deal with a heatwave last week and it was a true nightmare.

♥

Yeah, we got a warning for an excessive heatwave that won't stop until the end of next week. Fun. -_-

I've never watched Avatar, but the creators leaving the adaptation is not a good sign.

Nine is my first Doctor as well and I'm sad that some people recommend to start with Ten. The only other good place to start would be Thirteen, I think.

It really isn't. The only selling point this adaptation had was that the original creators were to be heavily involved, without them this will undoubtedly fail. Once again. *sigh*

I know people are biased and love Ten, but I think Nine was a good introduction to Doctor Who as a whole, and there were some amazing establishing moments, and I loved the dynamic that Rose and Nine had.

The Avatar thing is making me SO angry. We were discussing it yesterday, the gf and I, she was complaining about networks wanting to create new "GoT" shows all the time and how old it's getting (she read somewhere that they want more sex and violence and darkness...) One of the best things about the show is that Aang is a kid, so he's super naïve about a lot of things. And if the rumors are true.. ugh! :( Also, the article also said that they wanted to be able to cast white actors and they didn't want to. I was excited about the live action when I knew they were going to be involved, now I'm scared about the result :(

About Agents of SHIELD... I'm sad it ended, but I'm glad it had those last two chapters because (for me) last season was a little messy. It had amazing things, but filler episodes where nothing much happened and I MISSED FITZ SO MUCH :(

Good luck with the heat wave, by the way! We had one a couple of weeks ago and it was... phew. Not good.

There's been a lot of misinformation being spread about the possible reasons why they left, because there's been no official details given about why other than "creative differences" and that they were losing creative control over the project, so whatever speculative things you see take it with a grain of salt. With that being said, the thing that I think is most plausible is that Netflix wanted an open-casting for white actors to audition, because I know the creators were adamant about having an all non-white cast. But we all know that the industry loves to pretend that non-white actors are difficult to find, which is why they always seem to cast white actors in non-white roles (or in white-passing roles, as if that's the same thing).

Either way, whatever the issue may have been, the fact that it was confirmed in their letter addressing their exit that they basically lost creative control over the adaptation of their own project was enough to really kind of give the indication that this isn't going to be good. :/

Yeah, S6 of AOS wasn't exactly my favorite because it did seem mostly filler, which isn't necessarily a bad thing it just...didn't really fit with the momentum the show was going at, y'know? Especially since S5 ended so solidly, it was rather jarring to go from that to Wacky Space Adventures. S7 was shorter, but at least it was a nice final sendoff.

But we all know that the industry loves to pretend that non-white actors are difficult to find
Truer words were never spoken!

It's astonishing that, like you said, it was THEIR project... I imagine the situation being like one of those moments where you're with other people and they tell you "choose a movie" and you ask "any suggestions?" to which they say "anything, you choose", yet they'll complain about every choice you take and they end up choosing (it's a terrible comparison, but bear with me xD) We'll see what happens with the show. What I know is that I'm not excited anymore.
I remember back in the day when Netflix was a happy place where we knew shows could have what they deserve... and now... where's all that? :(

We'll see what happens with the show. What I know is that I'm not excited anymore.

Even if it turns out somewhat decent, I don't think people are going to be excited enough to tune in, not as much as they would've been if the original creators were still attached anyway. Many have been burned too many times with situations like this happening, and I think as a whole most people want to back the creators who are unfairly treated than the big companies who screwed them over.

I remember back in the day when Netflix was a happy place where we knew shows could have what they deserve... and now... where's all that? :(

Greed is what happened, unfortunately.

Because yeah, I remember when Netflix first started their streaming service and people were hyped about it and wanted original content to be placed there, even for shows to be saved by Netflix after being unjustly cancelled so it can live on. However, the more popular it got, the greedier the higher ups got, and I think the first sign was when they started cancelling shows...just because they could (ex: Sense8 being the biggest burn, they even tried to silence fans from making campaigns to renew the show, and only gave us a two-hour series finale to shut us up). This led to their new policy about shows being cancelled after a few seasons (or less) if it's not bringing in the big money, no matter how many positive reviews or highly praised it is. Ironically enough, they have released a string of really bad original Netflix movies that look like CW rejected ideas, of course these are inexpensive to produce so of course.

idk, but Netflix did start off as this big innovative service for creators to have more creative control of their content that traditional networks don't really allow, only for the rug to be pulled underneath them. This doesn't always happen, of course, because Netflix is very selective on these matters, I've noticed. But this is why I've been more skeptical about Netflix in recent years because even if they have something good, because chances are they're gonna fuck with it somehow.

The worst is behind us here in terms of heat I think/hope. Good luck!?

Personally I liked this season finale more. Maybe the fact that I was really into this season again was a factor here ;)
I'll really miss this show and all the characters, especially Daisy and May.

It really was a solid show, and I loved the development of the characters from how they started in season one to where they all ended up, their individual arcs and journeys they all went through. There are things I wished we had seen more of, things I wished we revisited, characters they could've brought back, but overall this was a good sendoff. I'll miss this show.

Life won't feel the same without Agents of SHIELD coming.

It's amazing how much younger some of the cast look when you see clips of the first season now.

outside of Helstrom, whenever that'll be

All ten episodes of Season One October 16.

What do you guys think? Should this planned live-action series still happen?

No, it should not. The whole selling point when it was announced was that the showrunners would use it to expand on aspects of the Avatar universe that the animated series couldn't. That was the premise. There is no point in having a live-action adaptation of Avatar just to make one. We didn't just want a live-action adaptation of Avatar. We're not interested in someone else's take on it. Netflix is beyond out of touch if they don't realize that without Bryan and Mike's vision there is no project.

BTW, I can't recommend Avatar enough.

As someone who follows Big Finish, I was so happy to hear about The Ninth Doctor Adventures! Though it wasn't a total surprise; I was hoping for something along these lines, given that Big Finish announced last month they would be discontinuing their Monthly Range and making 'new ranges for each of the first twelve Doctors'. I'm so glad they meant that literally!

I really recommend Big Finish's audio dramas, they're often more mature and more creative than the televised show as they have a lot of creative leeway; there are so many of them, so diverse, and they expand on many "gaps" in the Doctor's televised timeline. I wasn't too impressed with the writing or character development in the last two seasons of the show (nothing to do with the Thirteenth Doctor being female, which I always was and still am in favor of; it's the feeling of flatness), so it's actually getting into Big Finish's output that kept me a fan of Doctor Who to a large extent.

In addition to the Doctor ranges and Short Trips and Companion Chronicles, they have Gallifrey (Romana and Leela, and a bit of Ace), The War Master, The Paternoster Gang, Missy, The Diary of River Song, The Lives of Captain Jack, The Lone Centurion, Jago & Litefoot, The Robots, Dalek Empire, Cyberman, Donna Noble: Kidnapped!, UNIT - The New Series with Kate Stewart and Osgood, Rose Tyler: The Dimension Cannon, The Year of Martha Jones... Not to mention more stories set on alien planets and more companions from the past or future, things TV fans always say they want more of.

And many Torchwood stories in a monthly range (plus special releases, Series Five and Six, and even Torchwood One sets), and some Class, too. Fans who only watch on TV are missing out on a lot.

The whole selling point when it was announced was that the showrunners would use it to expand on aspects of the Avatar universe that the animated series couldn't. That was the premise. There is no point in having a live-action adaptation of Avatar just to make one.

That's what I keep hearing from the perspective of quite a number of fans who are upset by this, that the only reason they were even remotely interested in the possibility of this live-action series was because the creators were to be heavily involved with it, and without them at the helm and being in creative control that interest has basically disappeared altogether. There's been articles claiming that not only is the live-action series still going forward, but that Netflix is "confident" that it'll be good, which is kind of, well, presumptuous of an assumption to make. We'll see how well that goes.

But yeah no, I agree, without the original creators this shouldn't happen.

Thank you for the recs.

I mean, whatever things Netflix wanted to do that Bryke found so incompatible with their vision that they left are by definition not going to be good. I can't believe Netflix is so clueless. I hope they accept reality and cancel it before they embarrass themselves by putting it out there (or accept reality and get Bryke back, but I consider that less likely).

Thank you for the recs.

You're welcome! Also, one can keep track of past and upcoming releases for each month here, scrolling with the Previous Month and Next Month buttons: https://www.bigfinish.com/whats_new

This being the month with the first Ninth Doctor release: https://www.bigfinish.com/whats_new/month/05/2021

I'm fond of Eccleston and Nine! Nice to hear he's coming back for some more Nine stuff!

I was legit taken aback when I read that announcement, but in a pleasantly surprised kind of way. Nine will always be my first and favorite Doctor, and I was always disappointed that we never got more of his era after one season, so seeing him returning makes me very happy. :)

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I don't think the live-action needed to happen again, and now that the creators have left, I think it really shouldn't happen.

I agree. Based on what I know of what they originally intended, this was going to be an extension of the animated series, which original fans can take or leave it if they wished, but it would've been their vision of their property. Without them it's pretty pointless. And the execs at Netflix are fools for both not allowing them to have creative control and for thinking that this project should move forward.

We also have a heat wave here. I'm melting! 0_0 I'm not a warm weather person, but I have to go outside... dogs, kid.. ugh
Goodbye Agents of Shield. I'll miss the show.
The Ninth Doctor was my first doctor as well :D

Apparently, while it's been this hot here before, there hasn't been an excessive heat wave of this caliber for as long as it's supposedly going on for a long, long time. And funnily enough, we had a thunder/lightning storm last night in the middle of all this heat. So, yeah.

I'll miss Agents of SHIELD. :( I'm glad that it got itself a proper ending, unlike the other Marvel shows that ended up getting cancelled before their time.

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