ext_10273 ([identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] rogueslayer452 2010-11-03 10:20 am (UTC)

Of course, this isn't the first time but it does seem to be a pattern with Sam with holding back info. from his brother. Which is kinda ironic considering he's always asking his brother to open up to him but he fails to do the same thing.

That's an interesting observation, and you're totally right. For someone who wants his brother to be more open-minded Sam really doesn't return the favor. Sam is more of the independent of the two brothers, I get that, but it goes both ways here. His trust needs to be earned and not just believed, especially after everything. Granted this is one of the fall-backs of their codependent relationship, but it needs to be fixed.

Losing his soul may have made Sam a better hunter but it's also made him a worse human being. It's taken away all his good qualities and brought out all his bad ones enforced.

This message is definitely vital to the theme about how everything you thought you wanted wasn't for the best after all. Sam had expressed multiple times before that he wanted to become a better hunter, and he's gradually been heading towards this road, his decision-making has been clouded. I used to remember Sam being the smarter one of the two, now it seems like he's taking reckless risks in the name of hunting, and what's interesting is that Dean says in this episode that looking at Sam now it reminds him of himself. Was Dean ever this reckless? Ever gotten so into the job that he didn't care? I think the only point I ever saw him go into that deep end was during the second season after their father's death. He was consumed with hunting.

I certainly think that Sam, while he says he needs help because he doesn't know what happened to him, he might not want to return to the way he was. He might end up liking not having his soul. At least that's what I've been picking up. Who knows?

Word! I think this is a failing that both Dean and Sam have where they got so wrapped in their own issues that they fail to realize that other people have problems.

Exactly, someone needs to smack both of them upside their heads because not everything revolves around them and whatever issues they're having that week. There are bigger things happening out there and even if whatever is happening with Sam might be connected to it, Dean needs to get his head in the game. It's one of the things I kind of disliked about how they handled the apocalypse last season.

Like I said elsewhere, Castiel and Dean are fighting the same war just from different sides. They are both independent and stubborn and expect so much out of each other and then get disappointed when they fail to be what the other wants. It's just sad.

I completely agree, and I wanted to make a separate post about it because it seems some aren't getting that concept that they are both fighting the same kind of war between their families just in a different kind of way. At least anything Dean would understand having to handle a very fucked up, dysfunctional family that cannot get along and being caught in the middle of the fray. He wanted his brother and his father fight like that for years, he should be able to understand and perhaps offer his help instead of asking it for a change.

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